Rats eating bonemeal; recommend a container please
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Comments (42)Not sure if it's a mouse, rat, squirl, or demon. I hear it day and night. It scales the cavity between the studs in our plaster walls in about 5 seconds. My house is a hundred years old, many passages for rodents. It chews in certain areas. I hear it running up and down joist spaces in my ceilings and floors. Heck it may be 5 of them. I see no poop. My mouse traps go untouched. I think I spooked it in my kitchen one morning. There I hear it now... It sounds like it's a pack rat with a treasure clinking on the ceiling above me. Man it's having a ball here at 1am. I'm in Kansas if there are specific species information that may be useful. Please help! I have had this problem for over a month.. I dont know what the monster is eating!...See MoreNeighbooring rats
Comments (13)Hello all!! I am so grateful for all of your insight. Yes, an informed decision is always best. In this case, I've decided to eliminate or perhaps limit the bird feedings because limiting the dropped bird seed and bird waste otherwise would be more of a challenge. I will also do more frequent dog poop pickups and continue to make sure our trash can and trash bags are well sealed. The rats personally aren't destroying my way of life. We do have some fruit trees that are small or presently without fruit but so far so good. Am I being optimistic? Yes, at least until I see a reason not to be. The dog acting up around the fence does get annoying, but dogs are that way around animals that are foreign to them or even other dogs. If I were the neighbor I would remove the plant next to the fence to discourage them from staying there. Then again they could end up someone else's yard, so what good that ultimately would do (other that redirect the rats to a new unknown location), might be questionable. Since the tree where any rat poison might be used is not on my property, I have limited access and ability to do that. The poison would be a last resort. As one of you said, having dogs or other "wanted" animals that could access it and not knowing the extent of poison effectiveness with the rats, is a turn off to me at this point. It is an option though, and I would rather have it than not. I know that mentioned feces and I may have somehow heard about an association between rats and feces somewhere (news, other tv program), so that is why I brought it up. Although trash and feces were brought up, I don't wish to suggest that all people with rats are dirty and I'm glad someone made that point. I know that these creatures just want to survive and just sometimes happen to end up in our yards and home. They and other animals make no distinction on what we consider personal or non-personal property and that is just how it is....See MoreOh Rats!
Comments (22)Thanks everyone! I've been stuck at work for a few days and haven't had a chance to respond. To ease any concern (that I may be an unreasonable live & let live extremists), we do have poison in the house and should I ever find Any activity there, the culprits will be killed without hesitation (if the poison doesn't get them first). As for the outside pests, I have a hard time viewing them as pests, flat out, across the board. Like Dawn, I see rodents as just another part of the cycle. Of course, I don't want them growing in numbers near the house either, but within reason I'd rather just catch and relocate like I did the other day. (Don't worry Dawn, I wore gloves and actually held my breath for the bedding removal) I appreciate all animals, and know quite a bit about handling them. I knew rodents carry disease, parasites with disease, etc. What I don't anything about is pathogens. Reading Hantavirus is airborne was news to me. I thought one had to be bitten, or ingest excrement to become infected. I also wanted to know the "shelf life" of the virus since that rat possibly has been making "Hanta-pellets" in my compost or "plague deposits" for that matter. :) I know we have predatory birds, but I haven't seen any snakes yet (although they would be very welcome! I love reptiles!). Getting a cat is not an option at the moment. My 5 bulldogs wouldn't have it, I'm afraid :) But Tree, I'd love to rescue a few once I have an acreage with a barn. I actually did rescue fulltime for a few years, but mainly giant breed dogs. There are a ton of great cats out there too! Since I won't be able to move the compost, I've done the best I can with preventative measures. I filled the space between the house and the bin with a foot of rock, and packed it in around the sides, after filling in any openings/pathways under the bin. Wbonesteel, I completely agree! That is what started the mouse hunt in the first place. My hubby set some boxes out for me and a few pallets two weeks ago, but I hadn't gotten to them yet so I decided to get out there and get them up and away from the house. Once I finished that I tackled the compost bin :) No sense in griping about rodents if you built them a hotel, right? Mia, thanks for the link. And, yes, I have been called crazy many times for all the things I've caught just to identify and learn about. The rat is definitely not the craziest thing I've put in an aquarium so I could Google it lol When I was 9, I brought home a 20lb alligator snapping turtle rigged in a sling made of shoe laces and sticks.. my mom just about lost it! Lol I had no idea that thing could've probably bit through my arm let alone all my fingers! It sure was cool though, plus I learned a ton about turtles that week :) Helen, my next property will have all the compost far far away from the house lol My main compost is actually on the back fence line, but when we arrived here I thought the old banged up flower bed would make a fine little kitchen scrap bin. Clearly, I am very new at gardening/composting :) Oh, and I'm sorry about Puff, losing a pet is terrible. Miraje, I almost hate to admit this because I'm sure almost everyone will think I'm insane or a complete idiot, but.. that picture was taken inside my house! Now remember, I caught this thing in a box so I didn't actually know what it was until I emptied the box into a big aquarium I have. However, that all occurred outside so I knew exactly what I was bringing in, when I carried it into the house :) Here's why.. I wanted to watch it, Identify it, read about it, learn more about rodents, protect it from -5° tempts since I was holding it hostage, take a picture then relocate it. Crazy or not, it's a life, a beautiful fat, healthy rat. The prettiest rat I've ever seen actually. It looks like an obese mouse. I realize that all may sound strange to most, but animals are IT for me. Learning about the creatures around me, in depth, has been and will always be a hobby per se. Just by catching this one rat, I have increased my knowledge on rats, mice, voles, and mole exponentially. Not to mention, all I have learned on pathogens (who knew the CDC website was so interesting?) Oh, and I've learned more about composting! Long story short, I love nature and all that comes with it. I've been catching creatures and learning about them since I could outcrawl a sowbug :) Of course, I've grown out of putting any of my new "finds" in my mouth, but other than that not much has changed lol Crazy or not, I caught the little buggers, learned a ton, then let them go miles and miles from my house! :)...See MoreRat Poison
Comments (6)The rat poison contains warfarin, which prevents the clotting of blood and makes them thirsty. Rat Poison: When a dog weakens gradually, that is not suddenly, a sanguine salivation comes out of his mouth, and his urine and feces also have some blood, it could be a poisoning by Dicumarol (a rats killer) produced from 3 to 5 days before. Dicumarol is a substance that inhibits coagulation, which makes rats, and unfortunately other animals, to bleed to excess even because of small wounds. Dogs are directly intoxicated or by eating an intoxicated rat. The vet has an special antidote (vitamin K) that must be injected several days on a row. If applied on time, cure hopes are good. If the dog loses lots of hair, occasionally vomits or suffers from diarrhea or a cutaneous eruption, the cause could be some other rats killer, thallium. This is an insidious poison, because of its slow manifestations, so when the dog is taken to the vet is too late. There are special antidotes. Treatment could be also very slow....See Morerinaldo
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