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Geschwind roses

16 years ago

Does anyone grow roses by Geschwind? If so, what can you tell me about his roses? I've never heard of him before and have seen some of his roses being offered for sale.

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geo_7a
16 years ago
Thought about it - some pretty roses, hardy, disease resistant; but declined as they basically have no fragrance.
AnneCecilia z5 MI
16 years ago
I have an Asta von Parpat I got from Vintage a few years ago - from a tiny band it just started putting out some very nice long canes late last year (and even re bloomed!) so I expect good things this season. It does not have any fragrance that I could discern, however is quite disease free and the color is very cheery. I have one photo of her, but it is not helpful since you can't see the size of the bloom (about the size of a 50 cent pc.)nor does it show that she often blooms in clusters. Still, I have attached it if you want to look. I will have to get more photos this year!

I do have a few more on order - more zone 4 experimenting, I'm afraid. Wish me luck here with
Erinnerung an Brod (which Rogue Valley says is very fragrant)
Geschwind's Norland Rose
Geschwind's Orden (neither of these last two are proported to have much scent.)

Here is a link that might be useful: {{gwi:234987}}
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I remember Orden very well because we had rooted two, and the second ended up as NOID we had to name. Leaves looked reasonably gallica/damask like, except for the fringed stipules at the base. The flower looked like photos of President de Seze - very full with a definite shading towards the center. It was prone to blackspot, and the flowers were often misshapen, with only half or three quarters of the individual flower opening properly. It is something I've occasionally seen on other roses, but only on a small percentage of flowers. Gem of the Prairies had 'odd' leaves. They looked like a setigera version of R. multiflora platyphylla. It never grew or bloomed well, and DH was of the opinion it was badly virused, though it didn't show any of the typical signs. I seem to remember the flowers being on the small side, very full dark pink pompoms. You could say that looked like the center part of Geschwind's Orden, though possibly lighter pink. It is remotely possible there are photos somewhere in this house, though both of these predate digital cameras by a few years.
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Thank you Ingrid and it is always a pleasure to have a rambler that maybe a bit iffy in my climate bloom - I chose carefully where I planted it to give it the best chance. Hello Mariannese, Thank you for the article, an interesting read. I started out with quite a few Geschwind's from the 2008 import. Winter took it's toll on many - deceased - but I still have the following that appear to be doing alright - Alpenfee, Geschwind's Nordlandrose ll (Radoslavs tag name), Wenzel Geschwind (I think), Futtaker Schlingrose, Leopold Ritter, and Annachen Von Tharau (is very vigorous). And perhaps Ernst Dorrel - name tag lost issue at the moment. Unfortunately as far as I can tell in addition to Ariana, only Geschwind's Nordlandrose ll will bloom this year. I have been waiting a long time for a Nordlandrose to bloom as my Canadian version never has. And actually this version - no protection - had nearly 3/4 of it's cane length intact and healthy to start spring. However all the others enjoy the same "characteristics of surviving" a winter unprotected where -30C occurred very early - night of December 13. Leopold usually blooms - not from Europe but Canadian vendor - but it also went right to ground last winter.Gypsy Boy will not bloom but this is the 3rd try for this rose and 3rd vendor and was in a premium spot si I give up on it.
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len511
16 years ago
I think he was a hungarian hybridizer that some say was ahead of his time, his specialty was hardiness. I think he used a lot of species roses in his program. sort of like the pre-dr. buck. I planted a band of geschwind's schonste last fall. we'll see how it does.
mad_gallica (z5 Eastern NY)
16 years ago
The couple I've tried have suffered from blackspot. It seems to be a common failing of his roses in a climate where blackspot is a problem.
neroseman
16 years ago
'Nordlandrose' has a quite good fragrance, to my nose (as does 'Geschwind's Orden'). Never seen BS on either.
riku
16 years ago
His Gypsy Boy (Zigeunerknabe) is the only once blooming bourbon that actually bloomed and an exotic crimson-purple for me in zone 3a - Bourbon Queen and Vari.Bolg. also once blooming bourbons but not his, gave me nothing and are gone.

Other roses of his such as Grus an Teplitz, Eugene A. Merlitt, Leopold Ritter also have done well in 3a - with winter protection.

Only disappointments have been his Erinnerung An Brod that died outright over winter and Northland Rose which has failed to bloom in two seasons. His Heaven's Eye I got was not it - some austin - so don't know about that one.

Looking at his Orden so far this spring, I do believe I will be missing a bloom this season as I let it winter with no cane protection.

Taking a chance and trying from Europe this year another 20 or so of his but on R. laxa.

Basically to me all I have tried on multi-flora are king kong growers relative to similar varieties in a designated class. Some people have issues in bloom form with his roses and the color spectrum

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