She must have found it in Monteray. I love things like this that have meaning as well as beauty.

Lol, yes, get rid of the lawn! I gave up taking care of my front lawn several years ago and it mostly goes brown in the summer. We planted a hedge in front to make a wind break -- a lot of plants just won't grow with coastal wind drying and chilling them.Once that hedge creates a little haven from the breezes, I'd like to build a couple of raised vegetable boxes with a rose or two and a small fruit tree. BUt, I do like a patch of lawn in back for sitting, reading, conversing, having tea or cocktails...and of course we always look at the roses while lounging on the shrinking patch of backyard lawn. No idea what it's composed of anymore since we sodded it in '97, but it manages to stay green. Just mow it now and then. As for the beautiful Teas, alas, I wish more Teas would open their blooms here on the windy Mar Vista hilltop. Some Teas grow fast and large, but the ocean air makes the flowers ball. Others languish within weeks - it's too chilly and damp until August. Starting the bands in pots against a very warm sunny wall out of the wind really helps. -- now I know why English gardenening books put so much emphasis on hedges and walls! Unfortunately, yellow flowers, particularly Teas, tend not to open properly here -- exceptions have been Lady Hillingdon and the Austin rose Molineux. I've tried Alliance de Franco-Russe France & Etoile de Lyon twice each! Also Souvenir de Pierre Notting, another gorgeous full-bloomed yellow Tea. All 3 of these grew big & flowered well, but all the blooms balled -- it's very frustrating prying the flowers open yourself! I ended up giving these Teas to a rose friend who gardens in hot dry Topanga Canyon -- the Teas love it there. I've had luck tho with full-flowered Baronne Henriette de Snoy and climbing Maman Cochet. Both have immense flowers and more leathery foliage which resists windy damp conditions better. Both these Teas were frighteningly vigorous here, but resented pruning when mature. Sadly, climbing MC's blooming diminished when we contained her with pruning for safety's sake, and she is no more.

Maurizio i am not a very good planner. My idea for a hedge is because is have overbought ; ) i will try to work the smaller teas i have in beds and borders but these are the larger ones i am thinking i might use in a hedge: Monsieur Tillier Mrs. BR Cant Arcadia Louisiana Tea Niles Cochet Mrs. Dudley Cross Mme. Lambard Vintage lists these as a '3' in growth habit so i'm sure they will go big. These others are classed as a '2' and shown to be head high in the catalog but i suspect may go bigger? My Duchesse de Brabant that has been in the ground from a 3 gallon pot since only last June is 4x4 in a dry year. Angel's Camp Tea Clementina Carbonieri Duquesa Frances Grate's Tea General Gallieni Souvenir de Pierre Notting Rosette DeLizy Louis Phillipe Mlle. Franziska Krueger I have found some mistakes in my thinking so this is a good exercise for me! ex. Gen. Schablikine i thought was a large tea but Vintage shows only waist high. The suggestion for V.t. 'Atropurpurea' is excellent. i have one in a pot now and have been wondering what to do with it. It is bullet proof in my conditions. Sometimes i fail to see the obvious. Thank-you. Randy i want to clarify-Lavender loves Maui-in fact some folks farm it here. It is only me that it doesn't like ; (

Got my order. MAM was missing and they included Frances Grates Tea (was probably a simple mistake on someone's part who might need new glasses). I expect this could have happened since I changed the order. I'm okay with the mistake but don't what will happen. I emailed the person who processed my order and she has not yet responded. How are goofs on orders usually handled? Will they want the rose back that I don't want? Will they send me MAM as I really wanted it the most? Has anyone had this happen?? Thanks. Mary