I agree with the Crimson Bouquet. It's the best small sized rose bush in my garden too. I'm surprised not more people grow her. Thanks for this review and others comments as well, because I had no idea of all the places to get good roses. I should relay my experience too with the few I have ordered from. Heirloom: good healthy plants but only two have bloomed in their first year. I am assuming that's normally the case with new roses and for own root. I bought two Earth Angels and both are sending blind shoots. Red Minimo bloomed like crazy. Blue For You bloomed like crazy. Abraham Darby is too new to say. I personally like Heirloom but it is very expensive I must say. All their roses have sent basals from the roots so I am happy. J&P: I recieved one band of Ballerina that hasn't bloomed and I don't expect it to till a few years but is doing great! I got two bareroot roses that are doing fine as well. One is Heirloom which was free and is doing exceptionally well and Spice it Up which is taking a little long to establish. I will say I have some pest eating the buds before they can form properly and that may have been the problem with the two EAs as well not blooming yet. High Country Roses: I got a Paul Neyron where the top growth looked amazing and there was an ok amount of root mass. It didn't fall apart when I transplanted it so I am waiting to see how it does. Rogue Valley Roses: I got three bands from them and while the root mass on all of them was massive the stems look a very sickly yellow and one stem on one plant of the two is maroon with some white stuff on it. Still waiting for them to look better. They are starting some signs of new growth as the bud eyes are starting to swell. Hopefully they will be ok. I got a Dakota Redwing, Yves Piaget, and Bouquet Parfait. I needed a couple shade tolerant roses. Yves is the only one going in a pot in the front. That's only if it starts growing more before the fall cutoff planting time too. I need to try Palatine this fall if they get the roses I want back in stock. Also K&m sounds good too. I did preorder from David Austin for next year and it was my first time. I hope it won't be a disappointment. The only thing that is a bit confusing to me personally is the nurseries that just have a list of roses with no real way to know which are currently in stock. There is no online cart. How do you order? Call or email? Sorry nooby here!

Heirloom has a sale going now. It's 4th of July themed, so all the sale roses are either red, white or "blue". Here is a link that might be useful: Heirloom Sale

Since you say on your "My Page" that you are in Idaho, I strongly recommend High County Roses in Utah. Every single rose I have received from them has been healthy and fast growing. (and I live in Maryland and pay extra shipping!) Ashdown Roses in SC has a free shipping deal going on. I also like Vintage Gardens in California. The Antique Rose Emporium sends great, large roses (but kinda expensive), but they have stopped shipping. Here is a link that might be useful: High Country Roses

Thanks cadiarose, I ordered more than I should have from For Love of Roses this year and have ordered from Heirloom and Chamblees. I know Chamblees will start shipping again the middle of September but on other websites they say to ship for spring. I guess I'm trying to find those businesses that will ship this fall. With the suggestions I've received here I've been able to go online and track down the information I need. Thanks everyone for your help.