Zack, I'm amazed you have blooms that far north. I guess it isn't surprising if Mad Gallica also has blooms. Yes, Kate. I often think of Ann in Tennessee being able to grow Chinas, Teas and Noisettes in her zone 6 garden. For me, it is a bit too cold. I only have a couple of these tender beauties. Like they say in real estate-location, location, location! As to the blooms, I'm still getting odd colors. My Prairie Harvest that is usually lemon yellow has pink stripes. We are expecting snow flurries this weekend. That will probably put an end to the roses. Barbara

So it’s been almost a decade since this post was active, but i have the same question as the original post, except i live in zone 4 (-20 to -30). Sorry in advance for a long post. I’ve been growing roses for 4 years (135+ in the ground and 10 in pots lol, since i forcibly retired). But every early Winter has been different. Like tonight we’re getting our first snow but the lows are going from low 40’s down over 4 days to 24,14,then 9 and 8, then next week it’s back up in the 60’s high/40’s low. My general rule of thumb is 3 nights at 25 or less (not lower than 15) then in the garage til Spring (May 15 is our last frost). Haha - but Mother Nature hasn’t cooperated the last few few years, as noted above (Sudden dive down to single digits after being 23 to 45). Last year i watered them with warm water before i went to bed down to 13, put them in the garage if lower than that. If the leaves still had green and weren’t crunchy, would leave the garage door up in the day (faces NW) if over 35. Overall worked, except 5 newly planted pots (Kashmir) in July were dead in the garage in May, before the last frost. My wife won’t let me put quilts around them outside, despite us never using them ( my granny in Gatlinburg made over 20 quilts just for me over the years, so we have plenty🤦🏽). And yes, for the TN’ers, Johnson City in the 1990’s was way colder and snowier than Knoxville/Maryville/Athens where i grew up in the 70’s. Montana is quite a bit worse haha as you can imagine, but worth it. Though last year in December, it went from 60 down to -30° for a week. Unusual, but that’s Montana. One Winter it never got below -5. And Billings (where I live) is way warmer than Bozeman (zone 3), so I should be grateful. Any suggestions when i should put the bigger pots (Pope John Paul, Munstead Wood, New Dawn, Plum Perfect) in permanently? Some pots are 16” w x 33’, most are 32” w x 25”. And the few Emily Carrs i started late Summer are only in 12” x 8”. The latter will go in after 25°. Help me pick options for the bigger ones: (most likely) i’m probably going to do the trolley shuffle back and forth at least from the South deck (somewhat exposed) to the pavement up against the NW driveway (although the big pots weigh 50lbs or more DRY lol, so my back would prefer not to lift and put them on the trolley unless permanently going in the garage for the Winter). I could leave them on our South facing deck which is full sun and elevated, and against glass walls, but it would likely still be single digits up there. put everything in the garage if below 15°, then back out if higher. warm water them at bedtime and put in the NW driveway. warm water but put them on shady NW ground. put them on a full shade North concrete floor patio/brickwall alcove with warm water for single digits, and leave them until consistently below 25, with the shade hopefully getting them dormant quicker, although the garage may still warm up to 50 in a few weeks. Sorry for all the options, but you guys sound as obsessed as I am about my babies haha. (Wife thinks i’m crazy, but the roses at least keep me out of the house and away from her for part of the day lol, again, now that I’m retired). And the neighbors go ape over all the flowers, so it’s fun. Thanks for reading this long post, and for any suggestions on what you’d do.☺️🌹

remodelqueen - I soooo agree with you! My brother was ready to re-do my entire kitchen plan on what "he" wants in his kitchen remodel...claiming that he "knows" what look I am going for & HE has already had it & it would be better if I scrap it & do something completly different... huh? Budget? Oh, is that what we were supposed to do? ;-) Actually DH & I are quite stubborn when it comes to something we want. What usually ends up happening is we find a way to get it cheaper (did some labor ourselves, bought some scratch & dent items/clearance ~with a 4yr warranty...you get the idea) or we do without until we can find a way to get what we want. This board has been a GREAT resource. I returned a double oven that was sitting in my living room for a month after reading some reviews of loud & long fan times & other issues. I returned a sink for another (it was actually cheaper~gasp!) after seeing one on here I had never heard of before. I was very careful selecting our (prefab) granite after reading things here. I was thrilled when I actually found a couple with some movement in them! I never would have thought to tell the granite guy what to do without having seen what I like on this board. Yeah, the granite was a bit of an upgrade in pattern, but the overall price was only a couple $100 more...not a lot in the grand scheme of life. We may have gone overboard on the appliances. I will admit that. DH fell in love with a fridge (42" counter depth) that fits beautifully in the kitchen. Did we "need" it? Probably not. But he really loves it. I have NEVER seen him break out a rag & clean something so often before ;-) So, in some respects we were "good" with a budget...on others, well, we agreed to sacrifice other expeditures for a while to get what we really loved. "Forgotten" the budget? No... I just try not to think about it right now! LOL!

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