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Comments (2)You know brighteyes, you may wantto post this on the Integrated Pest Management (IPM) forum. We know greenhouses, they know insects spiders, etc. At least I think you will get more response....See MoreBlack Widow spider 2007
Comments (13)Hi Shelley, We have also been dealing with a large number of the Black Widow spiders. We re-located to northern California from the Mobile, AL area, and found our new neighborhood was just crawling with all sorts of spiders, including a BUNCH of black widows. Here in the San Joaquin valley outside of Stockton, CA, the very hot and dry summers lead to large numbers of these pests. Since I discovered the problem late one night a few months ago, I have killed about six dozen VERY LARGE black widows here just around the outside of our home. The method I used to get them under control here went like this: I am VERY afraid of any spider, ESPECIALLY these, so I used flying wasp and hornet spray (Raid) to kill them from a safe distance. I found this spray will kill spiders almost on contact, in about 30 seconds or so. Hit them directly on the body with one good spray, and they will drop rather quickly. I found that my spiders would hide away from their webs in the heat of the day and come out in the evening hours. I did most of my spider hunting around dusk using a high power flashlight. Black widow spiders spin a unique rather unorganized looking web that is easy to spot once you know what to look for. Most of mine were near ground level with webs going from the house to the ground less than a foot off the ground. Also they were found behind plants, in bushes between flower beds and the house. A few were up on the eves of the house, but mainly they stayed low to the ground. My neighbor left a work truck parked in his driveway without moving it for a month or so. We killed two dozen just under his truck and in the pick-up bed. Our black widows are somewhat larger than I remember back in Alabama. Here they averaged between quarter and half-dollar size, with a few larger than that. For round two, after a week of evening spider hunts with the hornet spray, I went looking for a product to keep them away for good. I found a product called Cyper WP, which is a white powder insecticide you dilute with water and apply with a garden sprayer. ( same as DEMON WP or CYNOFF WP ) Search CYPER WP on GOOGLE This product is recommended for spider control, and it serves as a good all-around pest control agent as well. I purchased it from Pro Pest Products just outside of Atlanta, GA on the web. www.doyourownpestcontrol.com they had good prices and very fast shipping. Their number is 1-800-476-3368 I used this as directed, and after a few weeks or so, we have no more spiders of any kind hanging around. ( or any other insects for that matter....it kills almost everything considered a pest) Once dry, it remains active for about six months or so, according to the online product reviews I read. It also claims to be rather pet-safe after it is dry. I am very satisfied with the results I have seen here. I hope this helps with your spider troubles. Feel free to send me a message if you need any more information. Best Regards, Ryan B....See MoreBlack widow?Still have heeby jeebies!!!
Comments (9)I had some BW's in my Passionvine... I thought I'd "live and let live" until I saw them killing my Gulf Fritillary caterpillars! At least, the ones I had missed and didn't bring in to be hand-raised, anyway. I just knocked them to the ground and beat them with my hand spade. Yuk! I agree that wasps are an enemy of many spiders including the BW but they also prey upon caterpillars. So, I probably have a different feeling than many others here about wasps. Some are predatory, while others are parasitic. The parasitic wasps will lay eggs on a butterfly caterpillar and the larva burrows into the caterpillar. One may never know this has happened until the time draws close for the new butterfly to emerge from the chrysalis... only to have nothing happen except for a bunch of bugs to come out and a dead butterfly. Certain flies do the same thing. I just had that happen to a Giant Swallowtail... the chrysalis began to darken as though it were getting ready to emerge... I could see the markings of the new butterfly inside... but then the pupa just burst and all these bugs came out. Made me mad! Megan :)...See MoreGreenhouse going well
Comments (5)Melissia, It looks great! Most of my cold-season crops are in the ground but some are in molasses feed tubs I can move into the greenhouse after the weather cools off a little more. I'll just put low tunnels with floating row covers over the in-ground winter crops when it is starting to get really cold. I've been growing in molasses feed tubs for about 10 years now and, if I'd known how much easier it would be than improving dense red clay soil, I might have started out only with containers and never broken the ground. I've battled grasshoppers all summer, but in the winter veggie garden they haven't bothered anything too much, except for the sugar snap peas and the wild garden kale. They demolished the sugar snap peas and some of the wild garden kale, but the peas are trying to make a comeback and regrow, and I planted lacinato kale plants where the wild garden kale had been and so far the grasshoppers haven't bothered it. I have tons of cole crops planted in the garden and only found the first caterpiller damage yesterday, so plan to spray them with Bt today. I haven't seen the moths around, but since the cabbage worms are here, obviously the moths have been here. I'd rather start early than late, other than with the lettuce. I always find the timing of fall lettuce to be challenging. Once you've planted it, if the heat lingers too long....what can you do? My lettuce will grow outdoors as long as possible. I have three big rows in the ground, then there's a whole lot more in a cattle feed trough that is not movable. It has hoops over it so that we can cover it on very cold nights. The tubs that are planted for the greenhouse will be easy to move into the greenhouse whenever the time feels right. I have two of them filled with various lettuce varieties, and hope to plant two more this weekend with a mesclun mix as a succession crop. I have kept my lettuce in the shade as much as possible and so far we haven't noticed any bitterness. I started it much later than the other winter crops,though, because we always stay too hot too late in the fall, which drives me a little crazy. Oh, I also plant spinach pretty late because of the way the heat lingers. Are you going to heat your greenhouse this winter? I am not. Or, at least I currently am not planning on it. The cool-season crops I'm growing should do fine without heat unless we have a very cold winter. Today I will be sowing seeds of a lot more cool-season crops that are intended for the greenhouse. It would be too late to start much of anything in the ground, but with the greenhouse, I am not sure when "too late" arrives, so I'll be sowing seeds every few weeks just to see what they do as we move into fall and winter. Dawn...See Morewetfeet101b
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