Honda Lawn Mower Air Filter Cleaner Cover Falling Off!
Carol love_the_yard (Zone 9A Jacksonville, FL)
12 years ago
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Comments (6)Well, you mentioned heavy duty metal parts...and for that, I'd probably want the Ariens. I went with the Snapper Commercial for that reason. I looked at the height adjusters on the Toro, LawnBoy,etc. and thought they looked like they were made out of that metal that you band wood bundles together with. I think the Honda had some sort of metal for that Xenoy deck, even though the detents were plastic. My dad has a HRX217, and he likes it. I really wanted to like the LawnBoys, but I couldn't get past all of that plastic and the engine choices (refuse to go Briggs Quantum due to experience and discussions with shops). I realllly wanted the Kawasaki and I love power/idle of the engine. Tecumseh really impressed me a week ago, though, because my dad gave me his Yard Machine late last fall and I left it outside because I had no room and in the garage. We got hit with some snow that lasted months and it sat under a drift for at least 2 months, non-winterized and recently started after some priming and playing with it for 5 minutes or so. I was down to either a Husky, Ariens or Snapper. For the money, I could get the best features on the Snapper Pro. I liked the controls better on it, and the bagging system was more ideal than the Ariens for me. Plus, you can add the casters to the Snapper Commercial, and the caster model of the Ariens just didn't appeal to me at all. The Husky had the aluminum deck, but I still liked the Snapper better for that price range. I'm hoping that it will last a long time and I love it so far. Maybe all of the plastic and lighter metal on those other mowers is okay for what I would do with a mower. My dad broke the back wheel off of his Yard Machines a year or two ago, and that was the metal part....See MoreNeed help with my new lawn mower (Poulan Pro with Honda GVC 160)
Comments (11)I am really tired today running between all the big box stores. At the end, I didn't option the lawn boy because I really can't justify the extra cost vs sears promo today. Plus, a technician at Rona's service center gave me a friendly warning about the Tecumseh engine, the supply of the parts might be good for next 2-3 years but can't promise anything at long run. I still have a thought that a good mower should last me 10 years ironed in my head... However, I really like the design of the lawn boy 10684, everything seems very well design and build quality is better than others. If it's around $350CND range and none self-propelled model, I would pull the trigger, no question ask. I went back to Sears and ordered the Craftsman 36933 model (3-in-1 with bag, side discharge, mulching), which has B&S 850 platinum engine (8.5 ft/lb torque), no choke and no primer needed. The price is just what I am aiming for, 289.99+taxes. The engine seems pretty well build but the rest of the parts are very standard, a regular every week lawn mower......See MoreHonda Mower Problem-Backfire thru Carb?
Comments (32)dennyd75 Hi Denny, Another way to look at it. unrestricted airflow + vacuum drawn by the piston moving down = desired vacuum at the carb and desired amount of fuel drawn from the carb. Partially restricted air intake + vacuum drawn from the piston moving down = higher than desired vacuum at the carb which = more fuel drawn out with less air able to get in = rich mixture. You rightly say low pressure at the carb is what draws fuel out. What you don't see is if intake is restricted you will have lower pressure at the carb, IE higher vacuum. Lie you say, vacuum draws out the fuel. More vacuum more fuel. More fuel less air = rich. It's not the air flowing by that draws fuel out, it's the vacuum sucking it out. A manual choke works by reducing the air flow right? It draws fuel with less air and make the mix richer. Had you thought of that? If you leave a manual choke on what happens? As it gets up to operating temperature It will sputter and black smoke comes out the exhaust and it eventually stall. If you were take the plug out right then you'd find it blackened and wet with fuel. The engine gives up trying to clear the overly rich mixture out of the head, the plug gets wet and it won't fire and it stalls out. Actually, you find motors with a clogged air filter will start without the choke. So running and engine with a dirty air filter is the same as leaving the choke partially on. Trust me, it it gets dirty enough it will quit running and if that happens you're going to find a blackened and possibly wet plug. If you completely block air to the carb and spin the engine over it will flood. In fact I've done that on cars long ago where the choke didn't work, it was cold out and it wouldn't start. Simply take a shop rag and hold it over the carb and spin it over at take the rag off soon as it fires, put it partially back on if it tries to stall and do this enough to get some cylinder head temperature (it is a two person job). Restricting the air enriched the mixture to achieve the cold start. If you keep going in heavy grass and the mower stalls what do you think is happening? It floods the engine. It's what makes them harder to restart. Too much fuel in a warm engine. You would also notice as the revs come down at full throttle you'd see black exhaust. Black smoke is always too rich. Rich conditions in a warmed up engine make carbon rich exhaust. The first thing that should be done on finding evidence of too rich conditions is check the air filter. Same is true on cars or any 4 stoke engine. On a mower if you have a clean air filter and have cleaned or replaced the plug, made sure it's the right plug and right temperature range plug, and the fuel isn't too old and it still is too rich about all you have left is the carburetor. That's assuming you don't have a blown or leaking head gasket which leaves evidence where the head and block meet. and that's a too rich problem but for a different reason. If the head gasket is leaking it won't build enough compression to raise mixture temperatures to where they need to be to burn cleanly. If the air filter is clean you can take the carb off and apart and there are things you can easily check that can make it flow too much fuel like, I think, float valves but I'm not a carb expert....See MoreHonda mower leaking gas
Comments (11)Hi Mr. Plafolette, I think your leaking petrol issue may be a cracked fuel tank. American Honda Motor issued a recall on the HRX217HXA models. Which I think is the one you have. Affected Serial Numbers MAGA - 1400001 ~ 1453724 More info is: What is the problem? Due to a manufacturing defect, over time, a crack may form in the fuel tank mounting tab causing a fuel leak. What should you do? We strongly recommend that you stop using your lawn mower until the fuel tank has been replaced. If you need assistance, please see a member of this dealership�s staff or any authorized Honda Power Equipment dealer for assistance. If you need additional assistance that this dealer is unable to provide, you may contact American Honda Customer Relations at (888) 888-3139. In cooperation with the Consumer Product Safety Commission and California Air Resources Board Recomend you stop using this mower until you can get it checked over. Best, Mike. Here is a link that might be useful: Safety recall link...See MoreCarol love_the_yard (Zone 9A Jacksonville, FL)
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