The Robin is still the lightest 4-cycle trimmer I know of, and it's really a nice unit. My friend has one and I envy it. You can find it for just under $300 (Makita makes a rebadged version of the same trimmer). But in the $220 range, there a lot of quality 2-cycle models. A lot of the newer ones come with small catalytic converters, and I would expect them to be a little quieter, and of course they meet the newest emissions requirements. Husqvarna and Shindaiwa come to mind, but are certainly not the only ones. My experience with Echo and my recently-acquired RedMax are very positive. The RedMax doesn't need a converter to stay green - it uses a unique stratified charge induction process to more thoroughly scavenge the chamber after the power stroke. It's also suprisingly quiet to me. There is also Tanaka, Kawasaki, Stihl, and some others that I'm sure I'm forgetting. All of these brands should be stupid-easy to start, BTW. My Redmax will start within three pulls when cold, and when it starts I just close the choke while it continues running and I'm on my way. Hot starts are immediate on the first pull without even touching the throttle, every single time. It's extremely user friendly that way. I would expect the same for the others, too. Finally, I strongly suggest using Mobil T2 Racing 2-cycle oil in whatever you buy. I just discovered this stuff, and it's unbelievable: no smoke, very little smell, and it's going to give excellent lubrication. Others here agree. You will not lust for a 4-cycle nearly as much if you use this oil!

There are no Redmax dealers near me (Northern VA), unfortunately, because I'd love to see them in person. No Robin or Honda dealers either, AFAIK.

I'm headed to Belmont Power tomorrow to see what they have. Pretty certain they carry Stihl, Echo, and Shindaiwa. Not sure if any of them come with cat converters. I called another Stihl dealer only to find out tomorrow is their last day open for business. They have the FS46 at 15% off, but I think I'd regret taking the discount and giving up the straight shaft. Anyone know of any other good dealers in the NoVa area?

Also, thanks for the tip on the oil. That will be on my list if I end up with a 2-cycle.

The Ryobi 4 stroke is a good unit and will last a long time. I own one and it's reliable. It is probably 5 years old. My nephew bought one recently and it's a one pull starter and runs perfect. The 2-cycle Robin straight shaft for around $200 is a lightweight excellent machine as well. Polution?? Come on! It's a 25cc engine.

I got a few recommendations to look at Redmax as they supposedly burn really clean and are rock-solid dependable. Any thoughts on the tr2300s vs the cb250s? I can't find any pricing to compare online.

I also saw a used Shindaiwa T231 at a great price, so that's another option.

The Redmax site seems to be down right now. FWIW, my model is the BCZ2400S. That's their smallest commercial model. The TR2300S is a "residential" model with a slightly smaller engine and over a pound less overall weight. Considering it still has a solid steel shaft, and still comes with their commercial warranty, I'm sure it's very durable and runs quite well. The BC250S appears to be the replacement for my trimmer. Neither of these models has the Strato Charge setup. They meet EPA Phase I specs, whereas the Strato Charged engine meets EPA Phase II and CARB Tier II. But the bigger BCZ2600s seems to be the only trimmer they still make with that. Not sure why. I think you would be well served by the TR2300S. The thing you'd want to check is whether it can accomodate a brushcutter blade _IF_ you will need that function (most homeowners don't). OTOH, you might still find a BCZ2400S at a dealer or you might get a gently used one.

I did look at the Shindaiwa T230 and T231 (the 231 has the catalytic converter, right?). They were comparable to the Redmax BCZ2400S in size, weight, power, and price.

I ended up with the Shindaiwa T231. I'm posting a new thread with some questions on it... Thanks for all your input

I know it's too late for you now, and posting this now probably makes me a less than helpful, but...I just saw new Robin BH2500 (the awesome light 4-cycles) on eBay for $225 with only $15 shipping. That's a really good price, 5 available. I've used my friend's BH2500 and it really is great. Keep in mind you have to change the oil on these like a 4-cycle mower, but it's pretty easy and only requires a few ounces. If I hadn't just bought my Redmax, I'd be all over one of these.

Here is a link that might be useful: Robin BH2500 on eBay