Bermudagrass in asparagus....use salt as herbicide?
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Comments (17)There is no shortage of scary information related to the health effects of Roundup (glyphosate) to be read about. ==>>> yes .. and most of it is not true ... besides.. i simply can not comprehend.. how PROPER use would result in any runoff ... to kill that in your picture... you need about one teardrop of properly diluted product applied to the leaves.. NOT THE DRIVEWAY ... to create runoff.. you will have to be talking about application of gallons of material ... regardless ... that plant is not your problem... and no matter what grows there... killing it will never solve your problem ... if it is not apparent.. your problem is... wait for it ... THE CRACK IN THE DRIVEWAY ... pull out the plant.. best as you can ... doesnt matter if you get it all ... we will be suffocating the roots below .... AND SEAL THE CRACK ... all plants need to touch soil ... and there must either be soil [or some kind of compost] in the interface between the two paving materials ... or access to the soil under such ... [ants are happy to do that for me.. on my blacktop driveway ....] ergo.. ipso .... presto ... cap off access to such.. and you will not get plants growing there ... ken...See MoreBrand name of dehydrating organic herbicide?
Comments (7)I'm not dogmatic about any gardening practice. My usual reaction is "do nothing except maintain optimal water and see what is really needed". I practice "IPM" ... I use whatever will have the least impact and still get the job done in a reasonable length of time. If the garden sprouts a nest of fire ants, I'm opening the Amdro, not messing around with home remedies. The wasp nest in my tool shed, OTOH, will get the soapy water treatment tonight. She's right on the handle of my pole saw! http://www.epa.gov/opp00001/factsheets/ipm.htm http://www.ipm.ucdavis.edu/GENERAL/whatisipm.html For weeds, it may mean a scuffle hoe or hand-pulling, it may mean one application of glyphosate (better than multiple doses of AvengerAG or SummerSet AllDown because it kills the roots of perennials like Bermudagrass). http://www.summersetproducts.com/assets/AllDown_Concentrate_label.pdf http://www.summersetproducts.com/assets/AllDown_Concentrate_msds.pdf http://www.avengerorganics.com/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=A4SpfYmxDWQ%3d&tabid=81 We tried corn gluten meal as a pre-emergent. The quail loved it. So did the doves. The two main purchased additives I use are soil sulfur and Ironite ... because this is alkaline desert dirt. The compost and mulch is all home-grown....See MoreRock salt and asparagus
Comments (20)Asparagus competes poorly with ground covers (like weeds), but Na levels become toxic very quickly, and chloride is no better for plants at such high doses. Regardless of the fact that asparagus is relatively tolerant to NaCl, applying enough salt to kill genetically vigorous weeds is not something that university/ extension service sites recommend. Salt also causes a crust to form at the soil surface which interferes with water penetration and soil gas exchange. Anything positive salt applications might offer would be in the area of weed control, and certainly not in the area of nutritive betterment; so, it would seem that eliminating the salt applications and finding a less limiting method of keeping weeds in check would be in the best interest of plant vitality and yields. It looks like salt applications is choosing one of two evils. Whether or not it's even the lesser ..... Al...See MoreJust how safe is Roundup?
Comments (33)About as safe as plutonium. Why anyone would even consider such a thing is mindboggling. FROM THE ASSOCIATED PRESS (6-7-11) Industry regulators have known for years that Roundup, the world's best-selling herbicide produced by U.S. company Monsanto, causes birth defects, according to a new report released Tuesday. The report, "Roundup and birth defects: Is the public being kept in the dark?" found regulators knew as long ago as 1980 that glyphosate, the chemical on which Roundup is based, can cause birth defects in laboratory animals. But despite such warnings, and although the European Commission has known that glyphosate causes malformations since at least 2002, the information was not made public. Instead regulators misled the public about glyphosate's safety, according to the report, and as recently as last year, the German Federal Office for Consumer Protection and Food Safety, the German government body dealing with the glyphosate review, told the European Commission that there was no evidence glyphosate causes birth defects. The report comes months after researchers found that genetically-modified crops used in conjunction Roundup contain a pathogen that may cause animal miscarriages. After observing the newly discovered organism back in February, Don Huber, an emeritus professor at Purdue University, wrote an open letter to Secretary of Agriculture Tom Vilsack requesting a moratorium on deregulating crops genetically altered to be immune to Roundup, which are commonly called Roundup Ready crops. In the letter, Huber also commented on the herbicide itself, saying: "It is well-documented that glyphosate promotes soil pathogens and is already implicated with the increase of more than 40 plant diseases; it dismantles plant defenses by chelating vital nutrients; and it reduces the bioavailability of nutrients in feed, which in turn can cause animal disorders." Although glyphosate was originally due to be reviewed in 2012, the Commission decided late last year not to bring the review forward, instead delaying it until 2015. The chemical will not be reviewed under more stringent, up-to-date standards until 2030. "Our examination of the evidence leads us to the conclusion that the current approval of glyphosate and Roundup is deeply flawed and unreliable," wrote the report authors in their conclusion. "What is more, we have learned from experts familiar with pesticide assessments and approvals that the case of glyphosate is not unusual. "They say that the approvals of numerous pesticides rest on data and risk assessments that are just as scientifically flawed, if not more so," the authors added. "This is all the more reason why the Commission must urgently review glyphosate and other pesticides according to the most rigorous and up-to-date standards." Here is a link that might be useful: RoundupandBirthDefects...See Morefarmerdilla
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