Does anyone have either of the above for trade or postage?...PLMK and thanks.

hot peppers do well here during the summer, but it's probably a bit late to try to start them from seeds. but, seeds are cheap and the penalty for trying is pretty low... so why not? i have several hot peppers in pots that are years old--like five or six. tabasco in particular does well here, and it's VERY ornamental.

What's so confusing? In general most peppers germinate at 85-87 degrees in 10 days.(Some stuff says Bhuts like 90+ dgrees but most seeds die at about 110 give or take.) I have no idea what other plant seeds sprout at,I only grow non Bell Peppers. Depending on uncontrollable stuff they might come up earlier or latter. I get ALL varieties except wild stuff to sprout mostly within 10 days,doesn't matter if it's a Chinense or a Baccatun etc. Now if your talking about growth until maturity thats a different story all together. Some take from 2 1/2 months to 6 months to bud and ripen pods. I also don't see what difference it makes to know within a day or two why it would matter if a seed comes up in 10 days , 11 days or 7 days for that matter. It could have been a hair deeper or whatever in the soil or grew more root before popping up. It's like watching Paint dry-most of the time it dries in the time it says on the can,but every once in a while it dries a lot faster or much slower...Just because it felt like it. :) Thats why seed packs only say how long it takes to put out pods AFTER it's in the ground. If seed sprouting was exact all the time it would be on the pack too ,you would get your chart... As it is you'll only get generalities,ball park figures. Too many variables to even get more than a ballpark figure for seed germination. Which for my growing conditions,soil mix etc. is 10 days average for most everything. Thats why they tell you in general to sprout your seeds from anywhere from 3-6 weeks before planting them in your garden. Most all seeds that don't pop in 14 days get dug up and they are usualy rotten or were deeper than I thaught and had sprouted but hadn't cleared the soil yet. I might not be an expert but I do grow a few pepper plants each year(400+ varieties last season.Going to cut down this season,Honest I will...LOL). I've got going on 3000 varieties and strains of pepper seeds and I just gotta grow them all....Always room for another pot...Looks good over there doesn't it? LOL No such thing as too many peppers.

Thought I'd give an update. I only had the space to grow a few plants this year. And they are planted in a garden that I get to only about once a week so they haven't been given much attention or water. Anyway, there are very distinct differences between the two types. This is from the seeds closer to a HHW. Not much difference from a normal HHW and the peppers grow upright. Here's one from the seeds of the Pepperoncini type. The peppers grow downward. And this is from the HHW type but seems to be kinda in the middle of the two. The peppers initially grow upright. Apologies for the blurry pic. I definitely gotta find more space for these next year. Rodney