#12 wire called high tensile usual sells at ag store in fencing department. As long keep kinks out its good wire for blackberries want get longer by weight berries are vines just summer and winter expansion. As install wire just take slack out wire don't try tighten. It will brake on re-bends hard wire. At your supplier they have tools to wrap wire its simple tool round rod the size #2 Philips screwdriver hole drilled in end so wire go through, tool you buy short so I made mind out screwdriver so have more leverage. This wire same as telephone wire used pole to pole sometime called #12.5 wire one 160,000 other 200,000 pounds both work.. This post was edited by gator_rider2 on Sun, Apr 28, 13 at 5:42

JT, Was it you who wanted a wyeberry plant? I tip rooted one, but I'm not sure it took? It's a tangled mess, and one cane died. Not sure if it was the tip rooted one? If so, sorry. I will soon dig in there. The thorns are crazy, so I have avoided it. But soon time to bare root the plant, if viable. If not I'll try again next year. I had success with a cutting, but that was promised out in the spring. I'll take cuttings in the spring and try again. But it may have worked, let you know soon. Yes I got a few and they were very similar. Actually hard to tell apart. The wyeberries were bigger, but otherwise taste, and plant characteristics were very similar. I made jam with currants, wild blackberries, tayberries and wyeberries all mixed in. One of the best jams this year. I made 4 different jams so far. The other standout was a mix of domestic and wild black raspberries. Both were killer. Both are already gone! Friends and family after tasting took them all! It is rather tart raw, but man the jam was excellent. I myself liked the mix with currants. That really made it unique tasting. Mostly red currants, some whites, and pinks in there too. Anyway plants are still growing, but soon I should be able to take it. I guess I should wait till dormant, but could try now. Well in about a week I have to leave town this week and will be back the 27th. I'll post at that time status of tip rooted plant. Again I didn't see much difference between the plants. nest year will be better as both grew like crazy. Although the wyeberry seems to be a better growing bigger berry version of Tayberry. I have a boysenberry between the plants and it grew so much, it's hard to tell what cane is what? They all overlapped each other. I left them on the ground as I need to cover them. I will trellis them in the spring. While dormant I'm going to cut the boysenberry way back, ridiculous how long the canes are. Some are almost 20 feet long. I'll sort them, prune them, trellis them in late winter/early spring.

Don't know where you live but if they are very heavy I think I would try to get them so they will be secure while they are "on the ground' .There is 3 solid areas so 3 places to secure them from back & in 2 places on each of those 3 solid areas. Get 3 poles that won't bend & drill into each pole. Run 3 bolts through center pole, 1 on each solid area so that the thing isn't going anywhere & outer 2 poles run bolts through front to back so trellis is secured to poles,then pound rebar that will fit inside the 2 side poles a good distance so allow plenty to be in ground & rest up the poles to hold it all in place, may want to put solid metal strap across bottom solid where poles are so it is secure as possible from winds & other forces!! Someone else may have better idea. They look wonderful there & compliment your house. So you don't want them falling but would require couple of people to raise them up to get them over the rebar. Could attach as above, using 2 poles & bolting 3 places per pole & then cement the poles in the ground (disassemble so poles could dry in concrete & then reassemble ) Jan

2 squares of pole beans and 2 squares of acorn squash will amount to a huge mess by mid-season. I'd do either by itself, but not together.