When should i Round up the lawn? It all depends on when you are going to drop seed, and if you are going to fallow for a bit. In actuality you can round up a few hours before you lay seed, but that isn't too practical for home lawns. For a home lawn, 2 weeks is probably the least amount of time I would suggest, since after about a week you should know if you missed any areas, and you can reapply. Also when applying it, it is important that everything is green and growing. Dormant, or sluggish grass/weeds won't absorb it, and they can wake up during the renovation. So most people recommend watering a few times a week before you apply round-up, and afterwards as well. Which type of RU? I saw blue and green cap ones. Just use the straight round up or any brand that has glyphosate as the main ingredient (I use Ortho's from Home Depot, it's a little cheaper). The other kind has another chemical that makes things turn brown in a few days, but I don't see the need for it when renovating, plus it costs more. Should i drop the Calcium lime before i drop seed or after? Drop Potassium sulfate before or after? Your next liming should be 90 days after the one you did this spring. If that coincides with seeding then I would wait till your grass has been mowed a few times. When seeding I would use a half app of starter fertilizer at the time of seeding, and the other half after it has been mowed once or twice. So then lime 2 weeks after that starter app. The starter is high in K, so that will count towards a K app. Would it be smart to fallow the lawn? It's not a bad idea, especially if your weed pressure is/was high and you don't mind having a brown lawn for a month or so. Better to do a TTFF/KBG lawn or just KBG? It all depends on you and your lawn. If you have a good amount of shade, TTTF is going to do better. KBG makes the best lawn in my opinion, but it has a longer establishment and maturity time, so don't expect a full KBG lawn to be really nice next spring. It really hits it stride in its third year. TTTF/KBG is a nice compromise, but there can be some issues with color matching and growth rates. For the TTTF cultivars, those are all good. I would definitely use Bullseye, it is one of the best. LS 1200 is good, but it does poorly in shade. For the KBG: Bedazzeled: A good choice, not too dark, good spring green up, not sure about it's disease tolerance. Prosperity: A very dark cultivar, might not blend well with TTTF due to color, but I can't say for sure. It also has some disease issues, might not be the best if you are just using one in a mix. Moonlight 2: Not sure about this one, check the NTEP's and it's tech sheet. Emblem: Not a good choice. Seed on the market is old as it's being discontinued. A very aggressive cultivar, might dominate lawn. Also very dark. Has a very long dormancy period as well, i.e. slow spring green up. Blueburry: One of the darkest cultivars you can get. Might not blend well, and it might have disease issues. Moonlight SLT: A good cultivar, supposed to have some shade tolerance. Check the NTEP and tech sheet for mixability. Award: A compact midnight, so it's going to be dark, and might not blend well. Does OK in shadier sights, but not great. There are a few others to look at. Bewitched: A dark cultivar so be warned, but does well in shadier areas, not too aggressive, and has good disease tolerances. Unique and Apollo. Not as dark as some, good shade tolerances. America: An old standard, has been around for a long time, but still performs well. Has some shade tolerance, not as dark as others. Orfeo: A very fast one to germinate and establish. Blends well with TTTF, but is aggressive, so it can take over. In reality, color might not be as big an issue as I make it out to be as KBG really needs good soil high in iron to reach it's full potential while TTTF seems to be less finicky to iron levels. Many of the growers say a lot of their cultivars blend well with TTTF. If you are really worried about it though, then just go with all TTTF or KBG.

I clean off the beds and take the remains and mulch them up with my lawn mower. I then till in any finished compost, leaves or even the minced up remains, fetilizer, manure, lime or whatever I am wanting in each raised bed. some years I put in nothing depending on what I am going to plant. Too rich of soil is not good for many cold climate crops. Now the bed is ready if I am planting a crop such as turnip that can be in the ground three weeks before the last crop. My soil is good and I don't have to till in the spring for anything. For peas and such I just till in the remains as they are high in organics and add anything else the soil might need for that year. I use fish in my compost so I don't need to add compost each year. I go every other year. I often till in leaves in the fall and they are always gone in the spring. I do not cover my beds with hay or anything. No need if there is no crop planted. In the north if we don't mince up the cabbage and other thick stemmed plants it will not be decomposed by spring and would be better of in your compost bin. I do mince up the compost also and already mine has rotted to slime from this falls waste. My soil has been added to and worked for many years so it is not hard from clay now. northspruce, we added leaves and Canadian peat to ours one year plus a small amount of sand and tilled the next spring and that was the end of the hard soil. Now the amendments are for nutrients only. I've had a great garden ever since and could plant it without tilling. Once the soil is great in raised beds you don't need to mulch even the perrenial things in the veggie garden. It thaws nicely. I am colder than most of you because I have to grow tomatoes in the greenhouse to get any sort of decent crop.

The Fall vegetable garden is by far the best! You can start seeds of tomatoes at the end of June- just right around the corner. I start them in pots or styrofoam cups. They will be ready to put out in August. You just need to remember to protect them from the hot sun. Also, peppers, if you need them. Ours go on and on for years, sometimes, so you might not need more of what you have. I am always looking for a different or unusual variety. Things like broccoli, cabbages, cauliflower, beans, peas, cucumber...seed directly in the ground. I wait until August, or even September to put them in. The things that like cool weather can go in later. Things like beans, get them going! Good luck with your garden. I hope you have a great fall garden! Janie

Sure. I got the recipe right from this site. As stated above, I will use the ingredients but not bundle the beans, but bake in a casserole dish and sprinkle crispy, crumbled bacon over the top of the casserole. I still call this site Gardenweb. It was known by that for so many years, I just can't use the word Houzz. The comment at the bottom was from phoggie, also of this site. Green Bean Bundles A family favorite. Amazing Aunt Audrey@gardenweb 4 16-oz cans whole green beans 1 pound bacon 1 stick butter 1 t garlic powder 1 c brown sugar S&P Preheat oven to 375. Drain green beans. Cut bacon strips in half. Wrap a piece of bacon around 12-14 green beans forming a bundle. Place in a baking pan and set aside. Over low heat, melt butter in a small saucepan. When butter is melted, add brown sugar, garlic powder, and salt and pepper. Stirring constantly, heat the mixture just until it starts to boil. Drizzle the mixture over the green bean bundles. Cover the baking pan. Bake 45 minutes covered, then remove cover and bake 10 minutes more. Maybe broil them right before serving to crisp the bacon a bit. phoggie AAA...my family loves these green beans also. I did not fix them for Thanksgiving and a grandson wondered where they were so they will be served when he comes for Christmas!