Didn't want to hijack your thread But since you're out If anyone is interested in some Aristolochia seeds I have *Fresh A. Fimbriata seeds / From my garden / Very limited amount left http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/album/577608655yZyeuj *Fresh A. Gigantea seeds / From my garden / My vines are still flowering http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/album/578023775RaXVai http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2795038780104938910nLRzwr *A. Elegans / Collected last season / But still good / At least they're sprouting for me http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2025578940104938910lBDqjR http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2449654410104938910ZAsSbi Also have some NOID seeds / Collected Seeds / Have no clue what they are as the plant they were collected from had no flowers & non of my seedlings have flowered yet to ID Collected seeds come from the Cal State Fullerton Arboretums awesome pipe vine collection They were collected with "Full Permission" to do so & were not poached I've volunteered there & have donated many many plants to them so I was welcome to the seeds Can also do a few *A. Gigantea And / Or A. Trilobata http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/album/577474678CeZOQm Cuttings for worth wild trades that are worth the cost of shipping the cuttings via Priority Mail Would prefer to trade seeds for Aristolochia seeds I don't have But would happily trade for Winter Veggie Seeds Cuttings / LMK what you have available

Aristolochia littoralis also (formerly) known as A. elegans. Easy but more delicate and not as vigorous as bigger A. gigantea or A. ringens which are other great Aristolochia. butterfly people had to admit it but you gotta control the amount of caterpillars on these and most passiflora or the plant will not get established with any vigor. I use BT which is a safer way to only target caterpillars but it isn't systemic so after a rain you gotta reaply. Bayer advanced markets some excellent pesticides that are systemic but even those only last a couple weeks. I like Conserve SE but I don't know if its available to the retail consumer. It's a systemic and esaier on non targeted insects such as bees. In any case even once established well I still spray portions of the vine to control a million caterpillars. Plucking off the cats and crushing eggs on leaf tip tendrils are a good way too. Don't get me wrong I love the butterflies and hate to hinder their family rates. Aristolochia doesn't like much fertilizer in fact too much and it will hamper blooming but it will grow a lot of leaves.

I have tried alot to get these to grow from seeds I bought on ebay no luck at all.You might want to start them while they are fresh might have better luck, they seem to be tuff to start from seed or maybe the seeds I got are old.

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