I understand it is now illegal for one to consume raw milk from their own animals, and free range chickens are illegal also(passed Feb 8th). Here is a legislative link for Virginia: http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?061+men+BIL Also: WESTON A. PRICE FOUNDATION ACTION ALERT January 19, 2006 VIRGINIA INDEPENDENT CONSUMERS AND FARMERS ASSOCIATION (VICFA) DAY, GENERAL ASSEMBLY 2006 Wednesday, January 25, 2006 General Assembly Building, Richmond, Virginia 8:30 a.m. gathering Help lead government, give ourselves a greater voice, and be one of the VICFA members and supporters who gathers in Richmond, VA to speak to the legislators at our first annual VICFA DAY. Please put this date on your calendar and plan to go to Richmond for the day. We welcome other groups, like Weston A. Price Foundation, Peace and Justice folks, JA and Lynchburg Libertarians, and any others who support our efforts to restore freedom to farmers and consumers, to join with us on that day. [Since we first scheduled this day, we have learned that the Ag Committee meets on Wednesday mornings at 8:30, so try to get there early so we can make an appearance en masse! We will make sure some VICFA members remain in the lobby to rendezvous with those who cannot get there until 8:30] Please help spread the word. AGENDA We will meet in the lobby of the General Assembly Building at 8:30 a.m. to briefly discuss the day's plan and distribute buttons and Talking Points (copied below, under Directions) then organize into groups for visiting senators, delegates and their aides. Each group will appoint a primary speaker. Plan to stay at least till noon, though we encourage everyone to stay the entire day. (Directions below) Need a ride? We'll try to help out. Write to editor@vicfa.net or vicfavoice@earthlink.net Looking forward to seeing you all there, Deborah Stockton, Editor VICFA Voice Logistics: Getting There and Eating Allow at least a half hour for parking and walking. You might want to bring a bag lunch. The Gen. Assembly building has a cafeteria, and eateries abound in the Capitol Square area, but if you hit them at the wrong time you could be waiting in line for an hour. The General Assembly building is in Capitol Square in Richmond. The Capitol is undergoing restoration and there is no public parking on Capitol Square. There are several parking areas within walking distance of the G.A. Building. Downloadable maps of parking areas are available on the General Assembly website http://en.groundspring.org/EmailNow/pub.php?module=URLTracker&cmd=track&j =59227541&u=545159 as well as the rates for these areas, though some parking lots listed might no longer exist. "Mapquest" directions from the west: I-64 E becomes RICHMOND-PETERSBURG TURNPIKE / I-95 S. Take the US-33 W / BROAD ST / US-250 W exit- EXIT 74C. Turn SLIGHT RIGHT onto US-250 / US-33 / E BROAD ST. Turn LEFT onto N 10tH ST. N 10TH ST becomes CAPITOL ST. General Assembly Building: 910 Capitol St (on the other side it's on Broad Street. Enter the building from the Capitol side). Directions according to the General Assembly Website: I-95 North Exit 74 C onto Broad Street going west. Turn left at 10th Street, cross Broad St. and look for parking. I-95 South Exit 74 C onto Broad Street going west. Turn left at 10th Street, cross Broad Street and look for parking I-64 East Exit 74 C onto onto Broad Street. Turn right onto 11th Street and to one block to Marshall Street. Turn left onto Marshall and go one block to 10th Street Turn left onto 10th Street, cross Broad Street and look for parking. I-64 West Exit 190 onto 5th Street. Turn left onto Marshall Street. Turn right onto 10th Street, cross Broad Street and look for parking. I-195 (RMA Downtown Expressway) Exit 7th Street-9th Street. Turn left onto 9th Street. Turn right onto Broad Street. Turn right onto 10th Street and look for parking. Talking Points for HB124 and the fundamental right to choose your own food VIRGINIA INDEPENDENT CONSUMERS AND FARMERS ASSOCIATION TALKING POINTS 1. Freedom of food choice should be legal. Virginia consumers are denied raw milk, homemade pies and cakes, on-farm processed meat and poultry. The freedom to opt out of government-licensed food is certainly as important as the freedom to opt out of government-licensed education or government-licensed medicine. 2. Food safety is subjective and based on faith. Virginia encourages hunters to gut shoot deer on a 70 degree day, drag it a mile through the sticks, rocks and squirrel dung to display it prominently on the hood of a Blazer and parade it around town in the afternoon sun, then bring it home and string it up in a backyard bird-roosting tree to hang for a week before cutting it up to feed their children and friends. But jams, jellies, pies, canned items, beef, pork, poultry, rabbit and dairy products require government-approved processing facilities. Ultimately, the food safety issue comes down to trustworthiness: a local farmer or government agent. 3. Selling food does not make it harmful. So far, Virginia allows complete freedom for food items to be given away. If unregulated food were as inherently unsafe as bureaucrats and industrial foodists allege, then donated food should be prohibited as well. Clearly, these current regulations are contrived to destroy market access rather than protect the public welfare. 4. Freedom from licensure is granted to small components of other heavily regulated economic sectors: elder care (three), child care (three), farm use vehicles (within 40-mile radius), home education (religious exemption). Recognizing inherent accountability in relationship-based commerce and small-scale transactions enjoys both legal precedent and common sense. To deny one tablespoon of milk from a dairy farmer's mother is simply tyrannical and nonsensical. 5. Government-licensed food has a questionable track record. Irradiation, pasteurization, genetically modified organisms, pesticides, herbicides, chemical fertilizers, gas-ripening, factory farming, MSG, rBGH, feeding chicken manure to cows: these are all government scientifically proven safe. Yeah, right. 6. Decentralized and locally-based food systems are less vulnerable to bioterrorism. Every government report on this topic agrees in the weaknesses of a centralized, long-transport, far-flung food system. Giving neighbors the freedom to interact in food commerce creates the ultimate food security. 7. Community-based food commerce stimulates local economies by keeping dollars circulating nearby, creating rural and agricultural value, and providing superior nutrition for the populace. This is true rural revitalization and farm preservation. For more information see http://en.groundspring.org/EmailNow/pub.php?module=URLTracker&cmd=track&j =59227541&u=545160 or call Christine Solem or John Coles at 434.973.6505 ***************************************************** Bill Sanda Executive Director Weston A. Price Foundation bsanda@westonaprice.org I don't know what the outcome was.

So I've thought about this for awhile now, and I've decided 1) I don't have as much room as I "measured." 2) I don't want to eat figs enough to grow them in an espalier. I was kidding myself. 3) I really want something in the plum/apricot family, perhaps enough to spray a bit. 4) I'm allergic to sulfa medicine, and sulfur in dried food, and that might be an issue in spraying. So the new plan is 2011 to work on the soil (and survive other things)and just maybe get the prunus mume in the ground this year - for winter flowers. 2012 build the kiwi and rose pergola, and plant front yellowwood tree. Work on flower garden. 2013 replace sod with clover, dig out the dry stream bed and raise the grape hill. plant kiwi and rose. 2014 build the grape structure, and sprinklers or something for water. plant grapes. 2015 get the berries and currants going. And then once everything else is well established, go back to thinking about something like a hedge of espaliered purple leaf plum, which would be pretty. I'm not giving up on my apricot yet, but I can put it off and see if something new comes out.

I am not sure that Donny is still in Raleigh. I saw a few posts by her several months ago in which she indicated that she was moving. You are not going to find anything worthwhile seeing on Myrtle Beach but to see Charleston is always a joy (not in August though). At Ann's advice we visited Hampton Park in Charleston several years ago. I do not know much about the parkÂs present status but that is an OGR garden with Noisettes, teas, Chinas and Hybrid Musks. We were there in October  it was sunny and warm but not unpleasantly hot. It is a Âno-spray public garden so one can see by fall which roses fared well and which roses should have gotten more attention. The roses were not marked and our map was out of date - still I learned a lot there. Roses Unlimited (they are close to Ashdown) in SC has a huge display garden around the nursery; both antiques and moderns are planted there. We were there in torrential rain so didnÂt enjoy much of the display offered. I wish you better luck as we had.

I live in a beautiful 160-year-old home in historic Warrenton, NC, an hour north of Raleigh. It's a Greek Revival & Italianate southern antebellum home by renowned architect Jacob Holt. I cherish every inch inside and out! The grounds are covered with enormous oaks and pecans. I'm originally from northern Virginia/Maryland (DC, Stafford, Quantico). I lived most of my life in Havelock, NC and New Bern, NC. Spent alot of time at the beach. Then I moved to the city ~ Greensboro, NC for eight years. Great thread! Caroline