How long can pole beans stay in production?
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Comments (5)"Perhaps you need to choose varieties that are better suited for hot weather?" That was my first thought also. I lived & gardened in SoCal for many years, and depending upon your distance from the coast, there can be periods where the weather is too hot for many beans. El Cajon was in Sunset 23, and it got pretty hot in mid-summer... so I'm guessing that you might have similar climate, SoCalFarmer. Some varieties have proven to be more reliable in the heat, such as the pole varieties "Rattlesnake" and "Purple Pole", and the bush heirloom "Woods Mountain Crazy Bean" (offered by members of this forum). Even those might struggle in the intense summer heat of the inland valleys. While pole snap beans are considered to be everbearing if kept picked, they do have periods where they slow down between flushes. Stimulating the plants to return to a vegetative phase will cause the vines to rebound more quickly. You can do this by picking all remaining pods from the vines, regardless of size, and pruning the ends of the vines. A light application of a high-N fertilizer - applied as a foliar spray - can also help trigger new growth. Keep the plants well watered during this phase. One other factor comes to mind: soil temperature & moisture. I tie those two together because mulch improves both. Even in the more moderate climate I garden in now, a thick layer of mulch results in much better bean health... if I am late getting mulch down, the beans will languish until I do. In your climate, and given the cost of water in SoCal, a good layer of mulch around your beans is even more important. Straw would probably be the most effective medium....See MorePole bean production in summer heat
Comments (8)I've grown pole lima beans in the Washington DC area since 1976, both large seeded and small seeded varieties. My favorite small seeded variety is Carolina. I've grown various large seeded varieties also including Burpee's best, Prizetaker, King of the Garden and one other that I forget. Some years I have had trouble with pod set with large seeded varieties. In Tallahassee in 1985 I had almost total set failure with Prizetaker but Carolina set in July. Nothing set after August although vines grew well until December frost. In the DC area since 1987 Carolina has always set reliably and large seeded varieties set enough so that gaps in production might be due to heavy pod load from previous sets. This was the case through 2009. Summer 2010 and summer 2011 were 1 degree warmer than any previous summer since 1874 with mean lows in the low 70s and mean highs in the low 90s and extended periods warmer than that. And these two years I had an alarming total crop failure both summers with Carolina and Florida Speckled Butter, though the vines grew well. After two months of dropped flowers I started getting sets the second week in September 2010, too late to mature before frost killed them. In 2011, cooler weather began the third week in August and I got sets and a decent single harvest before frost in early November. Other gardeners in my rental garden area (Beltsville) who had grown beans for many years also failed in 2010. No one else grew lima beans in 2011. There were some short term drought problems but that's typical in summers here and I don't think water stress caused the failures. These were also my two worst years for corn (after I got my earliest ears ever June 8 2010) but corn problems were due to an undetected phosphorous deficiency in the soil and to a new species of stink bug that is spreading in this area. Once I used a different fertilizer with more phosphorous my later corn yields were okay. My question is, has anyone else in the middle atlantic region, tidewater Va or the Carolinas, or the Southeast U.S. also had problems growing lima beans these past two summers after a long period of success? Farmers market producers in my area who grow in more rural locations did not have problems. I am a home gardener and grow veggies because my kids will eat mine more readily than they eat store bought ones. They don't like lima beans generally but consider mine a delicacy....See MoreBush vs. Pole Shell Bean Productivity
Comments (4)Pole beans produce more per plant - sometimes much more - but there is a trade-off. They produce a significant amount of shade as well... so in multiple rows, the space required between rows tends to cancel out part of the gain in productivity. Bush beans, while yielding less per plant, can be spaced much more closely. The yield advantage of pole beans is most pronounced when using beans as snaps, since the vines will bear almost continuously. When beans are allowed to mature (shellies or dry) this difference is less pronounced... but the yield for some pole shellies can still be very high. "Goose" (or the closely related "Ma Williams", which I grow) is one of the best for seed size, yield, earliness, and ease of shelling. For a small garden, a single row of pole beans is very cost-effective in terms of yield vs. space. Planted on the North side of the plot (to avoid shading other plants), you can get a high yield from a fairly small area, and plant shorter vegetables very near to the beans on the South side. The trellised beans will shield those vegetables from north winds, so this is a good arrangement....See MoreAsian pole beans (NOT yard-long, hyacinth, winged, etc. etc.)
Comments (3)Thanks for the tips. The Insuk's Wang Kong beans look exactly like the scarlet emperor runner beans (plants, pods and seeds) we have in our garden right now, though the seeds may be a little smaller (haven't let any mature all the way yet). I wonder if the seeds I bought from Territorial are this strain? I'll probably give the agrohaitai beans a try... since no one mentions them here, it will be interesting to report on a new type to others....See Moredigdirt2
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