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Trudi is right, although I've seen some so called biennials last for quite a few years. What started me on Sweet Williams was one such plant which was on it's 5th year. This was at a nursery where the gardens were tended by one of the kindest gardeners I've ever met. He looked as though he was in his eighties and noticed my curiosity about a particular flowering plant. He told me he loved the colour - a beautiful velvet wine red laced with a tinge of white - and had never let it seed in five years as he had been unable to grow another like it. The footing had grown to 1 foot in diameter and the plant was a knock-out!! I've decided to try what he did and this year I separated all the seedlings - no hunks - for about 15 plants. We have SWs in my daughter's garden which have been there for 4 years. They have to be the same plants as we've never let them seed. Now I just want to separate one colour from another.

After going to seed most likely not. It would be interesting to know if they still come back tho. When I gave some of my original wintersown seedlings to my neighbor hers did not come back after setting seeds. There are several biennials that can be tricked into behaving as a perennial and there are some plants which depending on the climate can be short lived perennials or biennials. For me my Sweet William came back bigger and better then the first bloom season... June 7th... Although this pic was taken on April 13th, this is exactly how it looked from fall thru winter... Vera

MARG: I have Sweet William seed that I received in trade that are marked Dark Red (but which I have not tested so must rely on the trader) which I will be glad to trade to you along with Hibiscus Manihot seed that I will pull fresh from the pod.If you would care for these seeds I would be glad to exchange them for a few of your Foxglove..White Camelot and some of your Lupin..Band of Nobles.Please let me know. Thanks.Ross.