Agreed Mike - on several levels. @ struw - What - non-pathogenic tumors? Bacteria can be non-pathogenic. As far as I know genetic mutation is non-pathogenic, though it could be argued that you have to have a trigger, such as lack of UV light to turn it on, which is perhaps where they were going with it, but that's not stated in the article. And there are no additional studies to confirm this. The only one that comes close was done by Tibbitts in '83. And as far as citations, fine. Here's one. This one (which "cites" Morrow and Tibbitt's work) offers the following: "specifically, intumescences develop when the interaction of high temperature and high humidity causes the rate of water absorption by plant tissues to exceed the transpiration rate. Other environmental factors, including light quality, may also promote (Morrow and Tibbitts 1988) or inhibit (Jones and Burgess 1977) intumescence formation. The developmental process of intumescence formation is unclear. Balge et al. (1969) and Eisa and Dobrenz (1971) described the rupturing of epidermal cells caused by cell enlargement (hypertrophy) of underlying water-soaked palisade cells, the walls of which have been softened by cellulase activity (Kawase 1981). Other studies indicate that intumescences are formed predominantly by cell division (hyperplasia; La Rue 1933c) or by a combination of hyperplasia and hypertrophy (Wolf and Lloyd 1912) that may be cytokinin- or auxin-regulated (Morrow and Tibbitts 1988)." At the beginning it states that M&T (among others) wrongly portrayed these to be tumors and that they are instead blown up cells. While light temperature "may" promote or inhibit this effect, the main culprits are humidity and temperature. And I've spent more time than I care to on this. I wont' even vouch for this study, but I do feel an obligation to block bad science/advice when I see it. And I personally think this post pretty much falls into those categories. I'd hate to think of all the newbies (not unlike myself) trying to figure out how to wire up small halogen lights to their fluorescent fixtures.

Here are a few I might consider from the previous thread Digdit pointed out: Neves Azorean Red** Ramapo Beefsteak* Sioux** box car willie** Crnkovic Yugoslavian Stump of the World** Turkey Chomp Clint Eastwood's Rowdy red * I have seeds ** I ave Seeds & added to grow list Any other suggestions on a good Red Slicer? Dean

You will find Grape and Plum used interchangeably on several websites. IMO, plum tomatoes should be larger than grapes. Riesentraube is worth growing for rich intense flavor and reliable production. Wheatly's Frost Resistant is a pink plum tomato with very heavy production and very good flavor. Grape - this is the red grape tomato that pretty must sets the baseline. Sprite - which you mention is a very good grape variety. I am partial to Sakura Honey though seed are difficult to find. It is in between a plum and a grape. It is also a commercial pink hybrid, not exactly what you asked for. Sugary is another commercial extra sweet red grape tomato.

I have the seed (Hawaiian Sweet Red Current) sometimes called Sweet Pea Currant also, that you're interested in. The plant of which I've grown now for a dozen years or so, just keeps putting more and more on as long as you keep picking em. Maybe 200+ on a single plant. (No I'm not kidding). I'd be glad to send you 30+ seeds, all harvested this past November here in Northern VA. If you'd like any other tomato seed(s) I have about 15 other varieties, Ponderosa Pink, Marglobe, Hometead, Roma, Rutgers, Jubilee Golden...etc, Most are Heirloom. and fresh seed, which I could forward. I'm looking for some hot peppers if you have any. Kris