Martha, they're gorgeous - thank you! And what an interesting shaped leaf. I live in Canada, but will probably be going down to the US in September. (I have a mailbox in WA where you could mail them, unless you don't mind sending them to Canada.) If you can hang on to the seeds, I'll let you know about 2 weeks before I go down. Either way, I would, of course, pay you for the seeds and mailing. Many thanks!

Folklore! Very Salmony colored, I would say. The flowers are slow opening, are pretty firm and the petals stay together well, so it is a good cutting rose. Also bears them pretty abundantly on nice long stems. This is going to sound strange, but the smell is a classic HT smell without the pepperiness (pepper shaker) of it, if that makes any sense at all. And the bush is vigorous, leathery and tall. Doesn't get much disease in my no-spray garden. http://helpmefind.com/plant/l.php?l=21.83327

Here is a link to Carol Adelmans nursery in Oregon. She only has three corals on her website this year but she normally has more. Eleanor at www.etflowers.com may have some. Please be aware of two drawbacks on the corals. 1. They fade to a light cream or soft white 2. The root pieces can regenerate new plants, called adventisious(sp)growth. Therefore if you move them in 3-5 years you may have new coral plants come up in the original space. A third and this may be only my nose most do not have a nice fragarance. Some to me smell like rehydrated anchovies. Here is a link that might be useful: Adelmans peonies

Yeah, I don't have Folklore ...yet. ;-) Let's get the top-level eliminations done first of all. Your photos and description show me your mystery-rose is definitely *not* Seashell Today Coral Sea Montezuma. Folklore's fragrance is rated as Intense ...and its leaves are rated as Glossy. I'm also leaning away from your orange mystery-rose being Arizona ...whose petals tend to quill noticeably more than yours appear to. But as we've all seen, Arizona blooms look so different in so many locations, I can't quite count it out entirely. Your photos and your description of the blooms' form and color, and the bush's growth-habit (very tall & "narrow"), immediately reminded me of a rose in my yard that I forgot to include on my "Long-Lasting Blooms" list. It is Sundowner - which is a grandiflora, thus matching your rose's bloom-habit. Take a look at the photos at HelpMeFind. Also "matching" is the fact that my two Sundowner bushes were purchased as bodybags at WalMart, like yours. But mine were correctly labeled ...I think. ;-) As I said, your desription of your rose's blooms and their "behavior" matches my Sundowner perfectly. But... mine has at least medium-strength fragrance. Also, its older leaves have leathery texture ...but not what I'd call "very" leathery. To my eyes, they are medium-green, and at least somewhat semi-glossy. You said your rose has "50+ petals." I've gotta ask, is that an estimation, or the result of doing an average-petals-per-bloom count with several blooms? Also, was that a Spring Flush count, or from a later flush? The reason I'm asking is, Sundowner is rated at only 35 petals. Note: I did a 3-bloom petal-count a few minutes ago. My most-mature Sundowner bush produces blooms which average about 40 petals. (Your rosebush appears to be *quite* mature, and thus might be producing higher petal-numbers.) When I was outside counting, I took a "sideview" photo of a just-opening bloom, to show the orange petals with yelow base ...and also made a "whole bush" shot. I'll post them for you over in the Rose Gallery ...or, email them to you. Whatever method you prefer. Sundowner might be incorrect. The fragrance-level and leaf-leatheriness factors don't seem to match. But Sundowner sure does match your grandiflora mystery-rose's described bloom-color, "ageing-appearance," and bloom-form. Regards, JohnReb