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Comments (63)Hi Mary, I've learned a lot from this forum as well! Another factor in my preferences is I'm getting older and don't want to bend down low to "smell the roses." Tall, fragrant & low maintenance is what I want for my garden these days. Fragrant miniatures I hope to keep potted & up higher to enjoy. Yes, there is crown hardy, then there is cane hardy. Most of the Morden roses are only crown hardy for me - their canes die but they grow back fast & strong. But not all zones are the same (ex. my neighbour's Morden Sunrise rarely dies back & is 4 feet tall, mine dies back to the snowline. I swear they're at least half a zone warmer than me!), maybe that's why cane hardiness is rarely described on tags. A quick run down of some of the rose groups as I informally think of them, based on what is available to me. I'm sure there are more official ways (and multiple names) to describe them. They overlap in the sense that some Explorers are "rugosas", some Explorers are "modern": Types: Species (wild roses such as woodsii, arkansana, virginiana, etc. My understanding is all roses are bred from species roses, which affect the hardiness depending on the species used.) Rugosas (rugose leaves) Rugosa hybrids (cross between a rugosa and a modern rose) Scotch (aka Spinossisima or Burnet) Gallicas (dark rich colours, once blooming) Albas (modtly soft pinks, fragrant, once blooming) Hybrid teas (not hardy for me, but often fragrant with large blooms. Ex. 'Peace' or 'Double Delight') Modern (I use this term to describe the mixed bag of roses developed in the last few decades. These are usually somewhat shrubby, lower maintenance & meant for the garden.) And then there are "brands". These are usually developed from a rose breeder or company with specific goals in mind. Some brands available to me: Canadian Explorer (ex. Martin Frobisher, Jens Munk, John Cabot, Frontenac & more. Most are tough/hardy, but many are larger) Canadian Parkland (ex. Morden Blush, Moden Sunrise, Winnipeg Parks, Hope for Humanity & more. Smaller compared to the Explorers, flashier flowers, but poorer health for some.) Canadian Artist (ex. Oscar Peterson, Campfire & more.) 49th Parallel (ex. Chinook Sunrise, Canadian Shield & more. The latest series of Canadian roses.) Pavement Series (ex. Snow Pavement, Purple Pavement & more. Mostly rugosas.) David Austin (ex. Heritage, Golden Celebration & more. Famous as Engligh shrub roses) Buck Roses Collection (ex. Distand Drums, Prairie Princess & more. Known for good health. ) Oso Easy from Proven Winners (these make a great landscaping rose for constant colour but I don't grow them as they are low growing and usually not fragrant to my nose). Note, the name Prairie at the beginning has been used by a few different companies/breeders. Although some may share some of the same parents, not all do. For example, Prairie Peace and Prairie Celebration are very different. My latest interest are roses like Therese Bugnet, which was bred in Alberta. Here's a garden shot from 2017, things are a little late to bloom this year:...See MoreRare Rose Auction by California Coastal Rose Society
Comments (15)Well then look for us next year -- same time, same place. We had a few internet bidders, but mostly it was locals, and, as expected, we had more roses than bidders. So there were some great deals to be had. I was "bottom fishing," (i.e. searching for those rarities that didn't get much bidding attention from anyone else) and ended up spending only a total of $80 for ten roses, all for interesting varieties that are mostly new to me. But now I have them and will post photos as they bloom. I got roses that run the gamut: Ain't She Sweet -- Joe Winchel's hot pink hybrid tea from the same line that produced the rose "Dolly Parton." Beauty Within -- a new J & P yellow floribunda. introduction that won "best floribunda" at the International Rose Trial at Rose Hills just last month. Bukavu -- a Louis Lens hybrid musk that has been winning at rose shows recently. Honorine de Brabant -- a striped OGR bourbon for my stripey collection. Merveille des Rouges -- a red polyantha. New Orleans -- a brand new shrub introduction from Heirlooms this year that I'm excited about. Robert Clements -- an Heirlooms old classic that has many good reports, but I've never seen this orange shrub in person. Schubert -- a mauve shrub that grows like a polyantha Summer Fashion -- a pastel yellow and pink floribunda I used to grow and remember liking. Vif Eclat -- a red hybrid musk, which I bought because hybrid musks are usually pink and white, so this seemed very unusual. Again, I'll post pics when I have them of these, and we hope to see you next year. Btw, Connie was correct -- we don't ship for free, but rather at "our cost," which mean you pay for shipping, but only the actual cost of postage and supplies, nothing for our labor and no markups of any kind. Kathy...See MoreHow long do David Austin roses usually last on the bush?
Comments (13)Lie others have mentioned. most Austins do tend to blow quickly, especially in the heat, even on the bush. My weather is going to be different from yours- no over wintering issues at all here, and it gets nasty hot/dry in summer. Better ones for me have been Mary Magdalene (keeps flowering, I get several flushes a year). Redoute, sport of Mary Rose ( likes it a bit cooler, and does blow a bit quicker than MM but flowers a lot). Pretty Jessica lasts well; can be a it flower shy unless she is happy (sulked a bit last year but has been blooming lots since repotting ) Tess of the D'urbervilles lasts better than some and blooms a fair bit for me too. ohh and I get some good flushes out of Prospero too. Not sure what to make of Munstead woods- it shot out a triffid like cane, last year which flowered profusely this spring, but havent had a bloom since! it does have a few autumn buds on it at present. I suspect it needs to go in the ground to do better, but I haven't got anywhere to put it really ( it wasn't supposed to get this big!) Claire Rose is supposed to be one of the longest lasting (can be used florist style apparently) but as it was a blackspotty balling mess for me, I chucked it pretty quickly. It does do well for some people tho....See MoreI think I'm over the David Austin roses
Comments (115)Deborah, some of the bare roots I got from DA in 2021 were tiny and not great, either. I thought the same things as you. Luckily, the two that were small and sad took off in the 2nd year. I don't grow James L Austin but I've heard others compare them in the same way as you. I like fragrance too much sosososososososososososososososososososososososososososososososososososososososososososososososososososososososososososososososo So I decided to just try GO. And I'm glad I did, he's aa becoming a favorite. Houzz gremlins are at v again. I'm glad aa DA replaced yours. If mine hadn't shaped up last yearyear, I'd be in the same position as you....See More- last month
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