Anyone grow Tradescant?
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Comments (7)I grow Tradescant in my yard just north of Houston, Texas. Here it will grow quite large - I think it is one of those that have what people call octopus like growth. Mine is an own root plant, and after the first year when it had gained some size, I have cut it back quite hard after each bloom cycle. This controls the growth for me. It grows in only about 4 hours of full sun daily, and the rest dappled shade. Because I live so far south, this much sun is sufficient. In the spring after pruning, it is about 4.5' tall and 5' wide. I would imagine that further north it would not be as vigorous. I don't currently grow Graham Thomas, but I did grow it when I lived in Dallas, Texas (zone 8). Mine was also an own root plant there and grew in full all day sun. It grew more upright, with lighter canes. It stayed about 5-6 feet tall for me, and probably about 4-5 foot wide. I did cut it back slightly after each bloom cycle. I have heard people say that an own root Graham Thomas will not grow as large as a grafted plant. I also grew The Prince when I lived in Dallas. It grew in full sun and was own root. It stayed much shorter, being more narrow and upright. It probably was about 3-4 foot tall. If my memory is right, I think that The Prince has more of a purple tone than Tradescant does. Both are very fragrant, but since it has been 9 years since I grew The Prince, I couldn't really say which was the most fragrant....See MoreSource for DA Tradescant
Comments (15)I can't imagine Tradescant thriving as an own root plant. Garden Valley Ranch has a row of them planted for the cut flower trade, yet in the past five years I haven't seen the grafted plants reach past my kneecaps. I vaguely recall seeing some online pics of it grown as a short climber, so it does have vigor... somewhere. FYI, DA-USA has hired new employees in the ordering center that know absolutely nothing about roses. It was challenging getting them to go off script. I asked how many tree roses of Lady Emma Hamilton were in stock, she told me 1,200+ plants. I reiterated that tree roses were not the same as bareroot bush roses. I was placed on hold as she asked someone else for help. I was subsequently told that the bush roses were the same as climbers and tree roses, and just need to be pruned and "shaped" to your requirements. I told her tree roses are very different, they're grafted to look like lollipops versus bush roses and must have a different inventory number. She didn't believe me, got exasperated, and our tense conversation ended shortly thereafter. This is quickly devolving into a J&P Roses experience. The only thing worse would be routed to India or some other foreign country's call center for customer service....See MoreTradescant ?
Comments (9)I'd hope that a single region's disease (rust) problem wouldn't cull a variety from a nursery! *Unless nursery is located in said geographic location. If that were, imagine all the varieties that would be yanked if going by black spot susceptibility! I know HERE there'd not be much left. Tee-hee. I'm not in the appropriate climate for applicable feedback, and my plant is too young to comment boldly, but I can say that: it seems moderately vigorous, decent cold hardiness and tolerant of insane bi-weekly temperature swings, it does NOT rust here, period, no mildew so far, light black spot once autumn arrives, eager to bloom, amazing, intricate full blooms that show the most amazing black-red accents and much deeper overall colour in autumn, they don't burn in my maximum low 90's and humidity, they last well on the shrub or cut, the blooms have a warm, comforting true rose scent that is, unfortunately bashful, and a gawky, octopus arm tendency (cutting back helped a lot so far, and this spring it's looking well.) This is it's second spring with me, and I have it on the west side of an old out house. Tradescant is in the four foot range currently. Almost time! Steven...See MoreTradescant, and Other Missing Things
Comments (30)Hi Terri, I have ordered from both Palatine and Hortico many times. While they recommend that you use 3 day shipping if you live in TX or CA, they don't insist on it. The cost for shipping 3 to 9 roses is $32.95. Whenever I order roses from Canada, I wait until I can find 9 that I want before I order, in order to keep the shipping cost per rose as low as possible. I realize that not everyone can do that, but if you can, then the cost is $32.95/9 = $3.66 per rose, which is not bad. Palatine packs their roses really well in a thick black plastic bag with moistened packing material around the roots. I have them shipped in November when it is cool. It takes around 6-8 days to get here and they always arrive in excellent shape. They do have an excellent selection and the quality of the roses is quite good. Their roses are only in the field for a single summer: they are budded/grafted in September, planted in the field and harvested the following November in the following year. Roses produced in CA and other rose-growing areas of the US usually spend 2 summers in the field before harvest. The Canadian roses typically have larger root systems (Rosa multiflora rootstock) than US grown roses (Dr. Huey rootstock), with some roots exceeding 18 inches in length. The caliper of the canes of the Canadian roses is thinner, but the caliper of the new canes on the Canadian roses catches up quickly. Since the rootstock of the Canadian roses is grown from seed, you have a much lower chance of getting a virused rose. Overall, the Canadian roses do as the grafted and own-root roses produced in the USA, in my garden. It sometimes seems a few of my Canadian roses are even more vigorous than the other roses: I had a grafted 'Radio Times' rose from Canada, a David Austin shrub, that threw a 15 foot cane!...See More- 2 years ago
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