I am pretty sure that there are a few different Louis Philippe clones out in commerce. When I lived in Florida, I was visiting my Aunt in Eustis and she took me to a wonderful small nursery called "Seminole Springs Antique Rose and Herb Farm". From there, I got my Louis Philippe. It always had a strong, sweet, beautiful fragrance (some people compare to cherry candy). I whole heartedly recommend this nursery. The website is http://rosesandherbs.com/ Here is a link that might be useful: Seminole Springs Antique Rose and Herb Farm

Hi! 1.Number one difference that I have read between dat and brug is that dats don't get woody. Once you see each, you will be able to tell the dif very easily. Even if it's not flowering. Dat flowers don't get as big as brug flowers, and yes sometimes the dats get heavy and point downwards, but usually start out up. Also I have noticed that dat buds always point up, where as brug buds when teeny tiny are upright, but will start pointing downward as about 1/4 of an inch. 2. I would say use the GH. Temps in the 40's should be fine. Not that it is necessary, but, You can try to keep it warmer by having black flooring, or painting milk jugs black and filling them with water. Set them about the GH, they will retain the heat and let it out at night. 3. I personally would go with potting up the cuttings. 4.I say the whole plant of the dat would be better than cuttings. If you wanted, I suppose you could dig up the whole plant, nice size rootball with it, transplant it and take cuttings as well. That way, if it dies from shock and the roots go, you will still have the cuttings. I myself havent done dat cuttings, so..I dont know how easy or hard they are. 5. Yes, you should see flowers next year from cuttings started this fall, or even winter. Mine I started from cuttings last year, kept trying to flwoer all summer, but between bugs, and weather, not to mention a dog or 2 knocking things over...they kept dropping. You will get flowers on your cuttings sooner if the cuttings are from above a "Y". Otherwise, if they are taken from below the "Y" that new plant will have to form a "Y" before it flowers. You may have enough to share cuttings, you may not. Some grow faster than others. Hope I helped a lil bit :) If I am wrong, someone here will correct me, lol. Daniella

I agree, Jennifer! It's a LOT of fun!!!! So glad you and Jayne had a good time. And, every gal I've met from the forum has been a hoot! Makes it easier for me to 'hoot' right along with them. lol Other than those I met at retreat, are LindaOH (think we've gotten together 3 times), anyone remember JackeTN? Met her last Thanksgiving.....what a nut ! and Lois, it was my pleasure to meet you!...yeah, she's a nut, too! Had tried to get with Bev2009 this trip, but our plans fell through...we still have August, so maybe.... @:) Now, how about this one! DD and her family met one of our forum members that I haven't...yet! I was soooo jealous! SharonG/FL-IN

WOW, Lynn! That is *another* awesome find! Now I want to go to an antique shop today!!! CONGRATS! (Hope it works out perfectly for you!)