Which Vines do you recommend?
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Secret's Out, PJPII or Sugar Moon. Which do you recommend in my zone?
Comments (7)Beth, I grow all three of these. I love the unique flower form of Sugar Moon…starts out looking HT, but quickly changes to very camellia like blooms and ends showing its lovely red stamens. It makes a good cut flower (not as long lasting as Secret’s Out or PJPII for me, though) & scent is divine. Sugar Moon’s big negative (and I’ve considered shovel pruning a few times over this) is it’s like a skyscraper here. Mine is on Dr. Huey and gets SO tall even with hard dead heading (we are talking feet at a time) and heavy pruning (to only a few inches) late winter/early spring. PJPII gets about 4 X 4 here; Secret’s Out about 5 X 4 & Sugar Moon about twice as tall, but about same width. SM only wants to bloom at the top of those long canes, too. It’s not as heavy or as frequent a bloomer as either SO or PJPII, but that may be because I cut it back so often. Secret’s Out & PJPII are very similar roses in almost every aspect. It would be hard to choose between the two. Mine are both on Dr Huey and perform great here even during high heat. I’ve read of many people having negative experiences with PJPII, but my grafted one is not at all wimpy. I did have an own root PJPII years ago when it first came out, and that one did not thrive at all…not a rose I would try own root again. Sugar Moon PJPII This picture is from mid-August during an extended period of upper nineties Secret's Out Usually very similar to the blooms of PJPII above Sometimes will have a bloom or two with pink tints like Secret...See MoreMoving to Zone 5a: Which Roses do you Recommend?
Comments (9)Wow everyone thank you so much for the suggestions. If worse comes to worse in regards to overwintering in pots, I am willing to rent out those garage spaces that apartments have! We could fit one of the tiny cars in it, too. It’ll only be for the winter months anyways! I do have pot bottoms that roll (though I’ve broken so many wooden ones so I will get new iron ones when I move up). Moving them shouldn’t be too hard. From what everyone is saying, it looks like there is a fair shot of my potted Austins being able to survive! Thank you guys so much for your input! :) Before investing in more I want to work with my current children! LOL I absolutely love this rose forum and how fast and helpful everyone is!! If I could post a bajillion heart emojis, I would! Heart heart heart!!!!!...See MoreWhich floors do you recommend?
Comments (7)They really are very similar. On my monitor, the one on the left has a bit more warmth to it, which I prefer, but that is personal preference and also depends on which works better in your house and your lighting....See MoreWhich YouTube gardening channels do you recommend?
Comments (13)I have never really got along with screens - I don't watch TV. I have relied on books when I want information or entertainment. Back when I was a new gardener, I subscribed to a couple of magazines but quickly concluded that there was always an agenda (usually to sell stuff) and I was even more irritated by the glossy perfection of featured gardens (which I certainly didn't recognise)...but mostly, the tedious predictability of continually catering to garden novices. I do find the internet has value but in general, there is an emphasis on branding, personalities, aspirational BS. I find myself looking at short videos such as 'how to light a Tilley lamp', 'how to do German short rows', 'how to sharpen a chainsaw' but have had very little compulsion to watch TV gardening. Whilst Mr.primula was waiting for a sports channel, one of those garden makeover programmes was playing in the background.. ('Love your garden', I think) .I was dismayed and offended by the whole concept - spend hundreds (thousands) of £££ to make a garden in 24 hours. Rubbish. Not gardening, just shopping. Presided over by grinning nitwits. There is nothing of interest to me. And, afaics, this is amplified on YouTube and subscription social media. So, apart from other gardeners, books (especially plant monographs) are still my main source of information... but again, you have to be prepared to trawl through a lot of utter rubbish but these are usually clearly signalled: written (ahem) by celebrities, heavy on illustration, light on text,...See Morekaty3816
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