Bladder Stones in Dogs
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Comments (3)There can be a lot of inflammation associated with having bladder stones, which may cause her to feel like she has to pee all the time, much like having a UTI. She may still have a UTI as well- sometimes if the urine is not cultured the antibiotic chosen just doesn't work against the bug she has. My lab Max has had bladder stones twice. The first time, I found them incidentally while on an ultrasound rotation at school. Two days later, he blocked and I had to remove the stones. With Max, the type of stones he had- struvite aka triple phosphate- are associated with UTIs, and Max has had more than his share of them. But repeated urine cultures came out negative, which is very unusual. A couple months later, he developed stones again, but this time he never blocked and I was able to dissolve them with prescription diet. Max has several health problems, and I make his food now, and so far no recurrence of stones. I also do a urine culture every month just to make sure because UTIs are the major cause of struvite stones in dogs. Max doesn't generally have any symptoms with his UTIs, except the one that resulted in having a kidney removed due to an abscess. Then his was peeing what looked like root beer- dark red brown urine. Yuck. Anyway, once the inflammation +/- infection is cleared, she should be able to control her bladder better. If not, she could be not so housetrained or have estrogen-dependent incontinence (aka "spay incontinence). For now the best thing is to keep up with her vet appointments and work to get the current problem resolved. You may try giving her some cranberry juice if she likes it to help calm the inflammation. Besides those things, there isn't much else you can do....See MoreIs there an alternative to KD Diet out there?
Comments (7)Pet peeve of mine. KIDNEY stones are NOT the same as BLADDER stones. They are 2 completely different anatomical locations, with completely different consequences, and completely different therapies for management and prevention. KD is not made to prevent the formation of BLADDER stones, though it may help in cases of calcium oxalate (due to restricted calcium levels) or cysteine (due to restricted protein levels) stones. KD does help prevent KIDNEY stones in cases of renal failure because it has greatly reduced phosphorus levels, which is a major cause of KIDNEY stones in patients with kidney disease, which then worsens the kidney disease. KD does nothing to manage struvite stones, which are the most common bladder stones in dogs. Struvite stones are NOT managed with diet- they are caused by urinary tract infection. All you have to do to prevent the recurrence of struvite stones is to prevent (or quickly manage) UTIs. My own Max has had struvite stones twice. First time, he blocked and I had to remove the stones surgically. I cultured his urine and put him on ABX. The infection cleared according to culture. Unfortunately I did not check his urine culture on a routine basis and he got struvite stones again. This time, I cultured his urine, used the appropriate Abx, fed him SD to dissolve the stones (he didn't block 2nd time around), and continued to culture urine monthly for 6 months, then every 2 months, now every 6 months. He has been on regular commercial dog food since then and has not had any recurrences, only because when he cultures positive I treat him right away. Max is NOT on a restricted-protein diet; in fact he eats the same as my other dogs. There is no indication for a Rx diet because he had struvite stones. You must ask your vet why the KD was prescribed and ask him/her if there are any other options. Purina makes NF which is comparable to KD as far as protein restriction, reduced sodium, phosphorus, and calcium. I don't think it will be any less expensive than KD though. Sometimes it is less expensive to do homemade diets, but it is time consuming, and you have to get the recipe from your vet or a veterinary nutritionist. Your vet can use BalanceIt to help him/her formulate an appropriate diet if necessary (you can't get an Rx diet from their website, just routine maintenance diets). In any case, I wouldn't switch diets without consulting your vet. S/he needs to know that KD is getting very expensive for you (I know the prices have gone up quite a bit in the last year or so) and you need options....See MoreTreats for dog with bladder stones
Comments (3)C/D has restricted protein, magnesium, and phosphorus to prevent bladder stones. But as far as what to feed, it depends on the type of stones. If they were struvite stones, then diet doesn't matter at all. My Max had struvite stones twice, but he is on regular dog food and has not had a recurrence. That's because struvite stones are formed because of infection. Control the infection and you don't get stones. Usually requires regualar urine cultures but Max has been doing really well on Solid Gold, Natural Balance, and Eagle Pack Holistic Select diets- all of which are high protein. But it doesn't matter because I get his urine cultured every 6 months (it was every month for a while, then every 3 months). If they were calcium oxolate stones, then I would not add extra protein with chicken. Safer to feed veggies like broccoli, green beans, etc....See MoreOlder Cat with Bladder Stone
Comments (4)I'm sorry to hear you're having to deal with these issues. You may have already found this site but I highly recommend reading it. Dr. Pierson is against feeding these dry diets, especially with the type stones your cat has. I can only suggest feeding wet food, adding additional (tuna) broth or water to the food and keeping a small pet water fountain around to entice her to drink more. I'm not up to date on the latest treatment for kidney stones but I've read where ESWL shock wave therapy is suggested, yet I also read where after using shock wave the stones are still too large to pass. If I were in your position I would ask for a referral to (or seek out) a specialist so you can learn more options, since non-specialized vets are not always current on the latest treatments. I would also visit a Holistic Vet. I found one site that discussed a study that had good results treating kidney stones (calcium oxalate) with the use of herbs. If the stone isn't blocking the urethra, then for now it's probably a matter of having it checked regularly to see if it's has moved. Hopefully her symptoms don't worsen. The main goal now is to keep fluids going thru her. Did he also put her on antibiotics? Did she have a UTI? Do keep her on the pain meds since that will help keep her relaxed and everything working better....See More- 4 months ago
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