I'm glad to see your posting- I am also trying to find out more about the ovens, without much luck. The Fagor was recommended to me, though, as a good quality oven, with good capacity for it's size, and just today I read that the BS wall oven won't be available until sometime this year. The descriptions that I've seen for various ovens only seem to give exterior dimensions, but neither interior dimensions nor cubic size, which would help. I'm looking for a very good oven for bread and pastry baking, mostly, as I'm interested in possibly doing a bit of commercial baking on a very limited basis, and the oven in my current range is entirely unsuitable for that. I'll be following this post with interest. Sorry I have nothing more useful to offer.

My experience is very different. 13 years ago, I put in two full ranges (4 burners on each one) in two different parts of my kitchen. Space was not a problem, and we entertained frequently with multiple cooks in the kitchen. I also have two dishwashers, so was able to make two work triangles. It has worked very well, although I can see your point about trying to cook while baking and the heat generated. The main point I wanted to make was that at the time, I bought an expensive ($1600) Kitchen Aid convection range. It has been nothing but a nightmare. I often cannot broil and cook on the cooktop at the same time--it shorts out the entire range. This happened within the first 6 months of owning it, and the repairman said that the model was really just for show and the circuitry wasn't sufficient to handle heavy cooking! Since then, the electronic control pads don't register, so if I want the oven to be at 350, I have to press in 349 because the 5 and the 0 don't work! The convection never worked properly. Horrible waste of money. I can't wait to get something else, and I'll never get another Kitchen Aid.

If you have one of those huge double ovens from BS or American Range can you answer a few questions? 1. Did you put a drawer under the oven? 2.Did you raise your ovens up a little instead of using the company's specs? 3. Do you wish you had raised them a little more? Is the bottom oven too low? 4. Is there anything you wish you had done differently? 5. Does your oven cabinet have a wood back on it or is it open to the sheetrock wall? Thanks, peke

" Posted by applnut Wolf, on the other hand, was super responsive from the get-go, answered all my questions easily and completely and really made me feel comfortable about my purchase. Now, I'm dealing with the dreaded porcelain flaking on my ovens, so not ideal, BUT they are still just as responsive and helpful as they were pre-sales offering several fair, and even above and beyond options, so though it's not ideal, to say the least, it's hard to feel like I made a "mistake" buying from them either. I do think that Wolf will take care of you within the warranty period. If you are out of the two year warranty, you are stuck using their repair people and they have you over a barrel. They won't give you price for repairs only a starting point and that was almost double what my other oven cost to have it's liner replaced. They will not stand by their products even with known ongoing issues. They do answer emails right away though. My DF range was a big expensive mistake for me.