If she is bred she should have at least some swelling there. Normally does start to bag up several weeks prior to kidding, though no bag occasionally occurs. Was this a hand-breeding or was she left with the buck for an extended period of time? The reason I ask is perhaps she took on her 2nd cycle with the buck and her due date is later? Be prepared with some colustrum on hand(save some if your other doe kids first, minimum 1/10 cc per lb per kid). Sometimes a doe will form her bag after kidding. Once in a while the mom will have no milk so you need to be prepared for that. The kid(s) need colustrum within 24 hours. They will get weak quickly so be pro-active. If she kids with no udder, go through the motions of milking her, (remove the waxy plugs). This will stimulate her body to make natural oxytocin (you can get this from the vet also) and let down her milk. Milk or not; be sure mom bonds with her kids or you will have a bottle baby for sure. It can a couple of days to stimulate but don't give up too early. Brendasue

Sorry for the personal followup, but I forgot about this post with the "I hope I'll be okay" part thrown in. At this point I know I'll be 100% okay barring medical oddity, but I knew I'd be in for 6-8 months of treatment, minimum, no matter what. I just didn't want to have my last contribution to this thread to have "hope I'll be okay" in it. Kauai will always be in my vacation plans from now on even if I don't take a job there, though. It was a great couple weeks even with the job interviews strewn through-out.

I'm here for a few minutes. I read every day, don't always post much any more. I don't understand the dislike of the new format, because it can be changed easily. Books and newspapers have white backgrounds. If you need help go to CompHelp and ask. I'm having a problem with my computer freezing, so I drop off a lot and spend time searching computers to decide what to get, before it freezes again. Wondering if a reimbursed is a good idea or not. Of course that meant REFURBISHED! Unless someone would like to reimburse me for it. Sue This post was edited by Sue-va on Thu, Feb 14, 13 at 14:54

No snow in my neck of the woods ( sad face)... But I'm carrying 5 college credits that are kicking my butt with the work load, exams, reading, etc. Then I have an machine applique side-job (I'm appliqueing 4" greek letters and numbers onto jackets and t-shirts) I've been busy with. Then girl scout cookie booths and meetings, and we've added dance classes this week, and the list goes on! and on! and on! I still need to photograph the wedding quilt, but I also need time to sit at a laundromat to get it washed before gifting... When to do that with 4 kids in tow?? And next week I get to look forward to DH travelling to Minnesota Wed-Saturday late. Oh Joy! I would also like to work on a challenge quilt that has an ever-approaching deadline... Have grandeous plans that may not be achievable... That's where I've been... remember, you asked first!!