I do have to say that I was a devoted fan of dish drawers for 15 years.....but, we replaced ours a few months ago and I am slapping myself that we didn't do it earlier. Some of it could have been operator error on my part. I usually did a FAST cycle because my DH basically washes the dishes first. We would also wait until it was fairly full to run it. This could be a few days.

We got a top of the line-ish LG and can't believe how clean our dishes are with less prep work. I do run the normal cycle but also do the one hour wash part of the time. My one DD said if we ran the normal wash of the dish drawers our things may have been cleaner, she could be right, darn it!

The bottom drawer started having a major error code which Google said was due to lack of use. That could be true because we didn't run it very often. This moved us to get the new one.

I had DD two houses ago. I liked them at first, even though they were loud - sounded like an airplane getting ready to take off. I liked the top (easy to load/unload, no bending) but not the bottom. It was SO LOW. Then, just months before we were moving out both had issues we had to repair/replace parts before listing house. Not at the same time.

I loved the ASKO we bought for our last house. It was quiet and sturdy. Our current house came with a Kitchen Aid, and I like it too. Also quiet, gets dishes clean. I have no idea about the price difference on these too. I also owned a Bosch that was equally great.

We had to replace our fridge last year. I went with an LG after buying an online Consumer Reports and doing a lot of reading. Been very happy with this purchase.

I love the look of the Cafe induction range in white with the brass accents. I have no idea if it works well or not.

None of the Cafe ranges rated by Consumer Reports scored over a 77.

I need a cooktop not a range. I've picked out a Bosch - just need to have the guy who's doing some cabinet work verify how that will fit in the current opening. I have an LG fridge at home and will get another one. I also did a lot of research when i got it and decided it was probably about as good as I was going to get in today's world of unreliable appliances. I've also picked out a Bosch dishwasher - pretty much a newer version of the one I have at home. I guess I should just take care of all of this at the same time.

I'm leaving the built-in oven/microwave/warming drawer until it croaks. It works fine and will be pricey to replace with potential cabinet fit issues.

Our FP drawers of 12 years ago were not great, but I loved,I mean LOVED , not having to bend over. Fast forward to present day and new ( 8 mos. old) FP drawers: Very quiet, do the job and, again ….no bending required. Perfect for just the two of us, and the second drawer is usually only in need when others are dining with us. I will never go back to a standatd dishwasher, unless these let me down.

edited to add: a friend was chatting as she walkrd toward the d.washer, turned about, not looking and tripped over the door her husband had momentsrily left open/down. Had Shoulder fractured and back issues. Freak accident, maybe, but thought I’d share as a reminder.

I love my cafe induction range. My sister loves hers too, and it the exact one you pictured Bbstx

People's likes are interesting. We always open our dishwasher when it hits the 'dry' cycle. The dishes dry in under five minutes this way. The dry cycle is the toughest on dishes finishes/plastics etc. But the noise factor would be a deal breaker every time. Rinse agents help with water spots not drying...

Can’t say enough good things about our Bosch DW. Even with the two of us, we still run it maybe every 2 days. It is very water efficient, so if it is not totally full, I feel OK about that, but sometimes we are out of big plates or bowls so it needs to be run. I think we have the 800 series.

We have an Electrolux induction range that I’m also very happy with, and I think they make cooktops.

@gsciencechick - I have the 800 series Bosch dishwasher too and an Electrolux induction range! I was going to get an E’lux cooktop but the reviews identified some legitimate flaws. The Bosch gets a lot of good reviews.

@martinca_gw sunset zone 24 - I do like that top drawer! I have been using both because inevitably some more dirty dishes appear while the top one is running. I don’t mind bending to use the lower one. I do like the two drawers but for the noise level and the fact nothing gets dry. Maybe I will investigate the new models.

Yes, I am a huge fan of D/W drawers! I have used them in three different houses now and I would put them in our apartment but the D/W there is pristine so it would be too wasteful. I love them for the ergonomics and configuration.

Yes, I had a D/W, I think Asko, that was so quiet I had to put my hand to it to see if it was on or not. The FP drawers are not terribly quiet (though mine don't seem as noisy as you describe). But unless one has a small apt. I think it's easy enough to do the dishes at the end of the night and go elsewhere if the noise were really bothersome.

I put double drawers in the CT kitchen and in our lakehouse K. My Maine house has taller, single drawers, but I put one in the pantry and one in the main part of the K. I scrape but do not rinse dishes (see below). I've also read that, oddly enough, they will come out cleaner if you do not rinse them first.

Simply put, pre-rinsing dirty dishes is a waste of time and water, according to Reviewed scientists. In fact, if you are spending more than a minute rinsing your dishes before putting them in the dishwasher, you are at least doubling the amount of water that is being used in the process. Nov 10, 2023 USA TODAY

Experts almost uniformly agree that dishes do not need to be rinsed — and, in fact, should not be rinsed — before going in the dishwasher, saying it wastes water and might make your machine operate less effectively. The Good Housekeeping Institute, which spent more than 374 hours over four months testing 17 dishwasher models loaded with the dirtiest dishes they could conjure, none of them pre-rinsed, confirms this advice WAPO

As far as drying, I have never noticed an issue. I don't use any rinsing agent.

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I was one who LOVED our DD too! Ours are FP and very quiet. I have to look at the light to make sure it's on.

I just read some reviews for the new models and they are positive other than a couple that seemed to have a major problem early on which could happen with any appliance and would be covered under warranty. Reviews said so quiet they couldn't tell if it was running - 44dBA which is quiet through the Bosch is 42. I am intrigued by these. I think mine are original to the house so 18 years old - reasonable timeframe for replacement.

Another big fan of FP DD’s !

Just bought a new set because ours were 19yrs old and DH was concerned about hoses being old etc and thought we shoukd replace.I find these VERY quiet but YMMV as Mtn likes to state. I do use a rinse agent and I use both Cascade powder /pods. I scrape but DO NO rinse. DH can’t wrap his head around it so he does rinse 🤨

Congrats on your new place!

sorry to here you do not care for the drawers. l love mine! My dish drawers are 14 years old, still quiet and on the heavy wash setting wash well unless the arm gets jammed by something falling below the grate. Glasses and dishes dry but not plastics. I will never go back to a regular dishwasher.

@Irish2 - great feedback - thank you. Do yours dry well? Do you know which model you purchased? You've about pushed me over the edge to go for new drawers instead of the Bosch. I'm feeling adventurous. 😄

We do the same as Arcy and open the DW when it's done. As long as there is still heat built up inside, opening the door/drawer creates almost a flash dry process when room air hits the contents. With the exception of the rolled lip on plastic storage containers (those I still have to shake water from) everything dries. I am not one to run the DW when I go to bed and I know a lot of people do so if that's your usual timing then never mind!

Curious about arcy and DLM opening the door when dry begins.

Do you open it all the way or just a crack? Interesting- going to try this.

I usually run the DW (like every other day or so) right after dinner. It is super quiet but it does have the lights on the front to show the cycle ( I had to point that out to DH as he would come add something when it was already one for a while lol)

@salonva If I have any plastic storage containers (top rack) I open it all the way, pull the rack out and jiggle the containers to dislodge the water. Then I push rack back in and leave the door open about 5" or so and empty it later - may be in 10 minutes or may be in a few hours depends on my day.

@3katz4me unfortunately I do not know the model number. ( I knew the older DD’s model #’s by heart) My dishes do dry however I use the ”Extra Dry” function key but not every wash. There are only the two of us but I run it every day and sometimes twice 😉.

We always used to open the washer once it was done washing and rinsing - less chance of damage to plastics from the heating elements, and saving energy too = win/win, IMO.

We don't have a dishwasher here at our house, but there's one at my late mom's and we had them growing up too.

Once you open it, it's off - no heating.

I will check my model number. also, so quiet, must check to see if running. One odd bit: ours have wood panels. Directions are to knock on the wood panel to pause, but it doesnt. unsure why. Minor issue .

We have the double . Bottom looks tiny in bad pic . And I do need to push rug bak a bit to open that drawer. They were offering an extended warenty at the time __6 mos. maybe. Cant hurt to ask for it.

I saw the model with knock to pause - already decided I can do without that. I would like the visible display but I don’t want the recessed handle. I like a bar for my hand towel. I’m going to see how it goes for awhile before I decide.

Our house came with a single dishdrawer (on a platform with a fake cabinet front below the dishdrawer), so we have much less capacity than a normal dishwasher. I think the owner 2 owners ago put it in. The previous owner to us had some sort of problem with it that the service techs couldn’t figure out how to fix, so they ended up replacing it with a another one when the house went on the market. Ours at 1 year old now works fine and dries fine. I think it is noisier than the Miele we had because we have some open gaps and the weird platform that amplifies sound. I would be much happier with it if we had 2 dishdrawers. It is much easier to load and unload, but we have to run multiple loads if I cook something complicated. We miss our old Miele, but it makes no sense to replace it.

I open my dishwasher to dry the dishes too....without heat. I open the door ALL the way. It only takes a few minutes...then I put them away...still warm.

Correct me if I'm wrong....I always thought dish drawers were for people that had no space to store their dishes. Clean go into one drawer then dirty go into the other...you NEVER put them away into shelving. If you have a large kitchen...you wouldn't want them?

Ours have wood panels, hidden controls and remotes.

.I always thought dish drawers were for people that had no space to store their dishes. Not at all

Clean go into one drawer then dirty go into the other...you NEVER put them away into shelving.

Even if you used them that way, most of us own a lot more than a dish drawer of stuff. But you are right, that idea was floated too. But I don't think anyone uses them that way. Most people use the top one only, for everyday, and both if they are doing a lot fo cooking or have company.

I have a Miele dishwasher. When it is done it opens the door automatically itself. It gets everything clean and dry and it's very quiet. We're happy with it.

I have regular dishwashers but if I were to go for the dish drawers I would like something like this. Perhaps not on both sides of the sink but side by side would be my preference. That makes the dish drawers very appealing to me. I just grabbed this picture off the Internet.

Decision made after using the drawers for a few days - thumbs down. I ordered a new Bosch - 2024 version of the one I have at home - along with a Bosch induction cooktop to replace the radiant electric one. Should have both installed mid-Feb along with new Moen Arbor faucets and some cabinet functionality upgrades including a lazy susan in the corner, pullouts in the lower cabinets and making the trash pullout a pullout instead of a cabinet door with pullout inside. Why does anyone do something so dumb as that. While he's at it, he's replacing some malfunctioning hinges and drawer glides. I need to do something about the fridge but that is complicated by poorly positioned adjacent pantry wall so I'll deal with that later.

I'm glad you used them for a few days first; they are not everyone's cup of tea.

I had them for maybe 4 years and once the novelty wore off, I had a love / hate relationship with them. We replaced them with a Bosch 800 and it was a relief. I didn't have to fit them into my life, if that makes any sense.

I have come to despise the dishwasher drawers. Unfortunately my new Bosch won’t be installed until around Feb 20. Among other things they are LOUD - 70dB to be exact. Loading is a PITA and DH is constantly confused about which one is clean and ready to unload and which one is dirty and to be loaded. This in spite of my color coded magnets. And the bottom drawer scraping on my rug and pulling it under there - uggghh…

3katz, I finally gave up on DH figuring out discreet signals about when the dishwasher was clean and when it was dirty. I resorted to post-it notes saying ”CLEAN.” Dirty was the default. 🤦🏻‍♀️

One of the few things DH does around the house is unload the dishwasher every morning after it's run. Our DW at home says Clean on the display - the system works perfectly. I'm a little leary of the new one I'm getting with the hidden controls - hopefully there will be some kind of indicator. I didn't want a recessed handle as the DW is in a prime location for hanging the hand towel so I had to get one with the top controls. In any case I'm really looking forward to 42 dB.