Yes Roberto you are correct it does say "Desert Rose, just add Sun". Thank you both for sharing your knowledge. Just discovered DR a couple week ago. Without the knowledge and advise from this forum I would not have known that it was possible to save this plant and he would still be sitting on the shelf at Lowe's. Plan on potting up with Al's gritty mix first thing in the morning. Thanks again to both of you for your quick responses, Neal

In am SOOOOOOOOO glad you decided to take a new found interest in plants Jojo! The world needs jade saviors like you. My goodness, those poor poor things! Hey I have seen jades almost all withered away come back just on leaves, branches or stumps after the roots have been removed! Even though the roots may be too far gone, the plant is not! I would cut off the stumps right above the rotted roots, let it callous over and root them all over again. I have had to do it and it works. As for the ones with salvageable roots, once you pot them into a much better mix with airation, they will come back. Jades are tough cookies and will come back as long as there are some good roots left, or regenerate new ones on stumps alone. Good news right? I think you will get much help here with others more knowledgable, and yet I have only learned from the best here. Seeing you take an interest in saving once distressed and abused/dying plants makes my heart glad. You know how I feel about that. I am always looking to mend a broken plant. ;-))))))))))))))))))))))

So in a sense is that article saying this is still somewhat a form of M. elongata? Kind of but.... In a nut shell the article tells us that your plant isn't a Mam. when under the plant ID microscope Meaning. .... it only looked like Elongata to me and as you said it may of been called a Sp.type of Elongata back in the earlier days of cacti naming could be reason why Rose also left a proper ID. The article explains more modern tools where used and who used them to properly ID and classify your named cacti and some others where found to have the same DNA as yours. It also explained the DNA structure of certain plants AND of your plant Sp. In DNA comparison to yours are to different for either M. elongata and yours to both be the same Sp of cacti. It is required to show/ explain the written proof amongst colleges but they dont need to show and tell ALL of us the DNA of any plant. Article also tells us that DNA is different enough to give any plant under the ID microscope warrants a true and then realistically ID or name. Then I go on at babbling about how many cacti get new names so fast it's hard to keep track of them all and they still continue to confuse us as fast as they can... Meaning I cant wait for ALL plants to have bar codding either. Until then.... Rose who still wears the GW cacti and succulent ID crown also shares some brief and IMO good information via another internet forum style webb site. No doubt we love yah at Arid Lands Tony but it is hard to be here and there. Mike M. drops in to say what may of happened to your now properly named cati more clearly.... And then.. just now is when the cat jumps off my lap... Budget or not. Thinks it's fair enough to use/loose a plant or two to let us use our own common scene. Not only would some learn more, they'd also learn it faster .. I'm not at all sure what a commercially massed produced water meter suggestion is for either.

Hi Cathie, Sounds like the cable co sure has you upset. Is Satellite an alternative? The cost of cable and alternatives have been discussed here b4...I just did a search on cable tv, and there may be some suggestion found. It is against the rules here to link to another message board similar to the one here. Compare that to linking to Jenny Craig from a Weight Watchers Board, (or linking to that 'other' gardening site from here....so your post 'may' disappear...they do that from time to time. If you would like to get a hot political debate going right here on this site, you might stop by the Hot Topics Forum. Things of that nature are allowed there. Sue...who has had some frustration with Satellite TV Here is a link that might be useful: Hot Topics Forum