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Kitchen Layout Advice

6 months ago

last modified: 6 months ago

This is the kitchen layout for our new house. The mudroom closet provides some good storage but I am wondering if it is worth it to remove it and make the kitchen wall straight (making the kitchen 17'4"×14').
Then if I remove the cabinetry from the bottom wall making an L shaped kitchen, it would give me enough space to make the island wider (4'-4'6").
Any suggestions to improve the overall kitchen layout would be appreciated.

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dan1888

6 months ago

Two full kitchens. I'd like to have the skill with spices to need your setup.

The island is shown with seating on the side facing the closet. You won't have passage clearance to get by anyone sitting there with the closet in place. The door to the pantry/servery, if you want one, would normally be at the entrance from the kitchen. In this case, because it's a main entrance to the kitchen, I'd leave it off or move the entrance to go through the area where the closet was.

I'd go to a single bowl main kitchen sink. Move the sink and dw to the left some and move the frig to the right end of that counter. I'd widen the spice kitchen entrance and move the range 6" or so over to the right to allow for the wider entrance and counter reduction.

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Sidra M
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6 months ago
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JAN MOYER
6 months ago
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Read this ( link below ) and return? Please? : ) You really can not get good advice from what is posted.

https://www.houzz.com/discussions/6411000/how-to-houzz-how-to-ask-questions-how-to-get-helpful-answers-and-e#28784466

Bigger bolder and upright helps as well

Feet and inches? Yes: ) All of them, for everything
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You've lost me at spice kitchen. Just add a good hood. Why do you need two kitchens? I'd much rather have a functional mudroom and one nice kitchen than two kitchens...
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6 months ago
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You have an 11 x 13 foyer larger than your living room and over half the size of your main kitchen. A kitchen with a sink on a far wall from the fridge . A cramped garage entry. Quite honestly, the house plan isn't really great, or I don't understand .........
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6 months ago
What is a "spice kitchen"?
auntthelma
6 months ago
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Im afraid the mud room looks less than efficient. With three doors, where is the storage?

I would make the spice kitchen into the mud room (I love an organized and oversized mud room.) Then, add a small sink, dishwasher and microwave to the butlers pantry (servery.)
Sidra M thanked auntthelma
T T
6 months ago
In CA, it is fairly common in luxury homes 5000+ sq ft, to have a "show" kitchen in the main living area and a "real" kitchen behind closed doors. Frankly, I suspect that people with these dual kitchens don't really cook all that often. In this case, I suspect the spice kitchen is for cooking with intense spices, whether on a wok or in a curry, etc. The goal is to not have the entire house smelling of those spices.

I agree that the Mudroom could really use more space before 2 kitchens are considered. The dual doors are problematic. If the Mudroom is not enlarged, I would drop the door between the hallway and Mudroom.
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la_la Girl
6 months ago
Agree with @auntthelma - that mud room will be tough - more doors than storage

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