Get over yourself!! On the air she is helping support 100s of low pay workers. Writers aren't the only part of this story. No one is going to control this AI stuff. Time to pivot writers. Life's like that!! Good for her for not supporting this garbage.

I want those low pay workers to have what the writers and all unionized workers have. They too should unionize. I support all employees who want to unionize. In fact, I wear a button--"A woman's place is in her union." I am thankful to my grandparents and parents who were union workers and walked many a picket line to fight for a better life for our family and all workers.

I had to go look it up. I thought maybe she had a new movie coming out or something. But looking it up, looks like talk shows like hers aren't part of the group the people on strike are part of. Some other talk shows are also starting to film again by the way the news reads. I'm going to guess those shows don't actually need union writers and can work without them. Maybe the strike wil cause these talk shows to really break from union writers.

I'm disappointed as well. She apologized, but didn't do anything more than that. I thought SAG pledged solidarity with WGA?

And this from the other day, shows it's not just some technical loophole, I think...

https://www.thewrap.com/drew-barrymore-show-fans-kicked-out-wga-strike/

A couple was kicked out for wearing union support badges that were being distributed outside the venue.

"When Dominic Turiczek and Cassidy Carter first took WGA buttons being handed out outside of “The Drew Barrymore Show” in New York,they didn’t even know there was a strike going on, let alone two. They were simply excited about the free tickets they had won to see Barrymore. But minutes after entering CBS Broadcast Studios, they were pulled out of the building.

“Some security guy came and pulled us off to the side,” Turiczek told TheWrap. “He was like, ‘You’re out. I already talked to people above me, and I see that on your shirt. I’m part of the show, you’re out, no questions asked.’”

Turiczek offered to take off his button. By that point, Carter had already taken hers off and the two were Googling about the strike ahead of being seated. But the offer didn’t matter. ..."

Reportedly, Bil Maher's show is going forward too.

I'm done with Bill then too. To me, watching those shows is the same as crossing a picket line. Not happening.

"A woman's place is in her union."

Yikes! So women have to have union daddy taking care of their needs? Aren't capable of building their own businesses and careers? Have to be told how to vote and when to work or not and be forced to pay a portion of their paycheck whether they agree with the choices made for them or not. That's so sad.

Nope. A woman's place is where she chooses to be. Fixed it.

Good for Drew for making a hard choice and owning it. Respect.

A union empowers women. Who else do you think is fighting for equal pay for equal work?

"Yikes! So women have to have union daddy taking care of their needs? Aren't capable of building their own businesses and careers?"

Why do you assume all union leaders are men? My mother started her union. Have you not heard of Mother Jones? Dolores Huerta? Frances Perkins? Clara Lemlich?

Proud product of a union mommy here!

If history isn't your thing, here is a list of current women union leaders. https://www.harpersbazaar.com/culture/features/a38571361/the-women-leading-todays-historic-labor-movement/

Might help to provide a few facts.

“The Drew Barrymore Show,” operating without its three union writers, isn’t the only daytime show to resume. “The View” has returned for its 27th season on ABC, while “Tamron Hall” and “Live With Kelly and Mark” — neither are governed by writers guild rules — have also been producing fresh episodes. “The Jennifer Hudson Show” and “The Talk” are also restarting Monday.

As long as the hosts and guests don’t discuss or promote work covered by television, theatrical or streaming contracts, they're not technically breaking the strike. That's because talk shows are covered under a separate contract — the so-called Network Code — from the one actors and writers are striking. The Network Code also covers reality TV, sports, morning news shows, soap operas and game shows."

https://www.wcnc.com/article/news/nation-world/drew-barrymore-daytime-shows-return-amid-hollywood-strikes/507-39ee7674-a892-4ded-a95b-65999f121638

Just because something's not illegal doesn't make it ethically right.

I think maybe Barrymore's getting so much attention because the Library Ass'n dropped her over this.

And while you're boycotting the shows you might want to find out who is advertising on them so you can boycott them as well. /s I don't watch daytime talk shows so I don't care if they are filming or not.

I'm just looking forward to being able to watch shows that are normally streamed. They are being moved to the traditional networks so that the networks have something to show. Are you going to boycott them as well?

You bring up some good points blfenton. My gut is yes. I don't need to watch so much tv. I'll read more. Hooray for librarians.

Also, to the best of my knowledge, the Writers Guild has not called for a consumer boycott yet. Maybe I'm ahead of the curve. I tend to do what the strikers ask of us. I did donate money though.

This one is easy for me. Never watched Drew or Maher so I won’t start now. Network TV is a vast wasteland of game shows and reality tv.

FWIW, there's a charity auction to raise funds in solidarity. It's getting lots of coverage this past week...

https://www.ebay.com/e/charity/tusc-charity-auction

From my sister - a member of WGA:

Proceeds go to help our #MPTF health fund to help our crews -- #IATSE & #Teamster members -- keep their healthcare. Click on the descriptions of the listings to learn more about what we do...

https://www.ebay.com/e/charity/tusc-charity-auction

I have very mixed feelings about unions and strikes. There has been FAR too much dishonesty and corruption in unions to feel like wanting to support them. These are not episodes from the far past, there were corruption convictions involving about a dozen execs and former presidents of the UAW just a few years ago.

Maybe the unions in the entertainment industry are cleaner. Maybe not. Most have existed over the years with the significant goal of enriching union officers. UAW membership, as an example, peaked over 40 years ago and is now at less than half that amount. Do members really benefit from union representation when the effect of their conduct is often for employers to relocate jobs to non-union states and abroad?

Workers have no one to stand up for them except their union--when and if they have one. Without a union, workers are completely at the mercy of the company. As for corruption in unions, how about corruption in companies!

If there were more unions, companies couldn't relocate jobs in non union states. That's just another example of companies screw workers.

Unions exist because yes there is a time and place where they have helped the voiceless. That's history. But one can also find examples where Unions over reached beyond their lane. This isn't that. Writers see their jobs dissipating. THAT'S PROGRESS. They CHOSE this career. They knew the parameters and the limitations. Boo hoo. They get to make choices as a union about themselves but not the rest of the workers. If ya don't like your choice or the turn it took then find a new career. Other's do it ALL THE TIME.

A couple weeks or so ago we were watching a Jeopardy Tournament of Champions. We missed one night so my wife googled it and couldn’t find anything. It was then that we realized that we were watching a series from a couple years ago. That’s the extent of how I’ve been impacted - that I’m aware of!

My feelings about unions are mixed, while I understand their value, far too often we hear stories of them protecting people who shouldn’t be protected, or retaining jobs for obsolete functions.

I have one direct experience that has always stuck with me. One year during college winter break I went to a temp agency and got a job working at a repair center for an appliance company. They had me pulling stuff from stock, crating repaired appliances, general cleanup, etc. In time I started helping a bit with the repairs.

One day work was slow so one of the guys suggested I try to dismantle a dishwasher to get the damaged tub out. I did that, and then with nothing else to do I put a new tub in. A while later the guy came to ask how I made out. I told him I put it all back together and he was floored. He inspected it and found that I had run a wire harness under something instead of over, or the other way around, but aside from that everything was perfect.

The next day I came to work and the shop foreman pulled me aside. “Listen, we like you here but you’re risking a complaint going to the union. I heard about the dishwasher; don’t do that again. Slow down. Just box things. Sweep. Find someplace to take a nap.”

there is good and bad in every aspect of life. Overwhelmingly, unions are there to protect the worker with wages, benefits, physical safety etc..

same could be said for the 'top dogs', all they worry about is shares, stocks and bottom line. they have been forcing workers to take on the work of 2 people for the same wage for years or quit if u don't like it....

to continue on arcy_gw vein: then the same goes for coal industry... coal is a dirty, limited fossil fuel, get a new job in another part of your industry, or get a new job. the list goes on and on....

Three writers on the show who are on strike. How many other employees of the show would be out of work if the show did not produce? Do the striking workers get strike pay? They can get interest free strike loans but what about the many other employees of the show who are not in the union? What are Barrymore's contractual obligations & what are the syndication company's' contractual obligations to the television stations that broadcast the show? What are the television stations obligations to their advertisers? How many regular viewers will abandon the show given nothing but repeats?

I have read that these type of shows have 150-200 employees. Seems like a lot but even if there are only half that many, that is still a lot of workers who would be adversely affected. How would you reconcile stopping production if you were in Barrymore's shoes?

The concept is if everyone goes out in support of that union production stops everywhere and management is forced to come to the table with solutions. It is pretty straight forward. Stoppage is put at a minimum. When workers support each other management learns they dont have the top hand. It drives home the message that you need your workers and they should be paid accordingly. It forces resolution. Drew Barrymore is wrong.

Overwhelmingly, unions are there to protect the worker with wages, benefits, physical safety etc..

How did that work out for the Rust Belt industries which have disappeared?

https://twitter.com/NYMag/status/1703433671615647949

it's so easy to believe in simplistic explanations for the state of labor these days, but there are a lot things that have happened that some folks do not seem to be aware of - like the fact that unions have been weakened over the past generations with laws passed by our federal gov't to limit their power. Here in FL, our state gov't passed a new law that impacts the ability of unions to collect dues.

And the studios have made it clear from the start that their plan is to starve out the strikers. Strike pay is being targeted to those most in need.

Gotta love the 'suck it up' attitude 🙄

Labor is what makes all these companies go - without it, they're nothing. What makes some people side with corporate elites, rather than regular working folks?

Just consider that studio execs make even more than auto industry CEOs...

"...Netflix’s Reed Hastings, who in January exited his co-CEO role to focus on his executive chairman title, led the Hollywood pack with a 2022 compensation package worth $51.1 million, up 25 percent. Meanwhile, the biggest pay gainer on THR’s list below is Paramount Global CEO Bob Bakish, with a 60 percent bump. Comcast’s Michael Cavanagh, who in October was elevated from CFO to the added role of president and recently took on oversight of entertainment arm NBCUniversal when its CEO, Jeff Shell, was fired for an “inappropriate relationship,” saw a 48 percent pay rise...."

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/hollywood-ceo-2022-chart-1235481300/

Labor is what makes all these companies go - without it, they're nothing. What makes some people side with corporate elites, rather than regular working folks?

Have you seen what AI can do? The acting, dubbing, writing? And that is right now, imagine in a few short years. I would not invest in these workers.

https://www.technologyreview.com/2023/06/01/1073858/surreal-ai-generative-video-changing-film/

So there's been a new development:

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/drew-barrymore-pausing-talk-show-return-amid-writers-strike-1235592362/

Drew Barrymore Says She’s Pausing Talk Show Return Amid Strike Pushback: “I Have No Words”

"Drew Barrymore has announced she is pausing her self-titled talk show amid the writers strike.

Last week, the actress and Drew Barrymore Show host revealed her show would be returning without writers and would abide by strike rules in not discussing struck work. Barrymore apologized after she received pushback and said there was nothing she could do to make it OK.

“I have listened to everyone, and I am making the decision to pause the show’s premiere until the strike is over,” Barrymore wrote in a statement on Instagram Sunday. “I have no words to express my deepest apologies to anyone I have hurt and, of course, to our incredible team who works on the show and has made it what it is today.”..."

Sorry that she felt she had to cave.

But you know what? I won't be boycotting her over this. No childish little tantrums or hissy fits over a difference of opinion with someone. who has done a pretty darn good job in her profession.

Maybe she doesn't see it as a "cave". Maybe she came to understand the other viewpoint and sees it as a change of heart. She did apologize after all.

Sometimes it takes someone to spell it out. If she had been getting advice from people vested in working that could be bad advice. Some one making it plain as to what is at risk here probably opened her to seeing what her responsibilities were.

I sure hope no one is driving a car!!! ONly SCABS would be driving a CAR!!

Is that the latest nonsense talking point floating around the alternate facts bubble?

Does anybody arguing against unions actually know what the strikers are asking for?

I think unions had their place, but not so much anymore. I've mainly worked in factories/blue collar industries. We all got paid the same for the same job whether male or female. Welder, line worker, polisher etc.

As wildchild mentioned, a friend of ours visited once during an election period. He was voting for a particlar party and I asked him why. He said because the union told them to do so. I asked what the party would do for them, and he had no idea. I also mentioned that the vote is secret, so the union wouldn't know whether he voted for them or not. It went right over his head.

One thing I will say for the writers union, they are fighting a terribly unjust situation, with no resolution in sight-- streaming services witholding residual payments is unacceptable without some other compensation.

I'm also cheering on the autoworkers.

" I sure hope no one is driving a car!!! ONly SCABS would be driving a CAR!! "

No, that's too broad an assumption. If it mattered to me, which it doesn't, I can drive my cars guilt-free. None were ever touched by American union members.

Had an afternoon oil change a while back. Watched her because of the station it was tuned to. Not a great show but was enjoyable. If I get stuck in the same position again, I'll watch. Not going to change my day around to watch, but it is mindless entertainment, unlike many of the other non entertaining shows which are broadcast.

Just stop already. Cancel culture is just cutting your nose off to spite your face.