improving this shady area
Jason, zone 7A, near Greensboro NC
11 months ago
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laceyvail 6A, WV
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Boston Area: Need a shrub for shady area
Comments (4)HOw about a hydrangea? In your zone, you should have plenty of cultivers to pick from, so you should be able to find a bloom color that will work with the roses. Although a lot of the hydrangeas will get larger than 4', they can be pruned to keep them to size....See Morebamboo like palm for shady, semi shady area
Comments (2)Lots of Rhapis species would look great there and they can handle the shade very well. Rhapis multifida has finer leaves than the more common Rhapis palms used so that could be an interesting one to try, but you can't go wrong with Rhapis humilis. It's taller growing that Rhapis excelsa and will fill the space nicely. Rhapis excelsa would look great there too, but they grow very slowly. Chamaedoreas are a huge genus of palms and most would look great in that spot and do well in shade. C. seifrizii is often called the Bamboo palm for short because the trunks look so similar to bamboo. The palm itself is a little ratty looking at times, but can be absolutely beautiful also (and they are very easy to thin out because they pup so readily so you can easily get rid of trunks that are growing too tall). C. tepejilote is one of my favorite species in this genus because the fronds get really nice and big! It is not a pupper so you will have to plant a row of them to take up the space. Underplanting that palm with C. elegans which looks similar but grows much shorter would give a very full look. Some of the more cold tolerant licualas are also definitely something to consider and arenga engleri is a beauty also although it may get big for that space. Good luck! -Alex...See MoreHelp with dry, shady area.
Comments (22)I can't help but think that somewhere at the base of everyone's motivation for making landscape improvements is the desire for creating more beauty. Usually, this it at, or near, the top of the list. Even though every time I mention how not good it is to keep low-hanging limbs on trees in the yard, it causes a near revolt. Nevertheless, I'm going to say it again. It's not good! I have to think that most of the time people leave low limbs remaining because they are afraid of not knowing the effect of removing them, and also because they are trying to maintain privacy and view the low hanging limbs as more of it. Trouble is, they either screen their own house from a desirable public view, or they screen their own yard from themselves! ... making it seem smaller and giving it a character that would give any claustrophobe a good case of the heebie-jeebies. The general impression one is left with is that someone is making a statement of neglect, as the overall appearance tends toward looking disheveled. There is a better way. What helps improve appearance is to make it look like things occur intentionally and are being maintained. Trees should not look like they are creating head-scraping ceilings or facial obstructions, but like there is plenty of clearance above whatever it is that the tree is sheltering ... in most cases it's humans or houses. It's the case that trees, by design, have a gap between their canopy and the ground. Leaving this gap low -- so that it will not work for humans -- intuitively looks as wrong as doorway that is only 4' height. When one wants to screen the lower level, the plant form of choice to use is the SHRUB. It has no gap between its canopy and the ground, so that the view beyond it is cut off completely. If one is screening objects that are outside of one's property, it is usually best to locate the screening shrubs as close to the property line as possible in order not to cut off one's own yard from view. Trees screen higher elevation objects and can be placed wherever the screening is needed, taking other factors about tree placement into account, and making sure that the canopy does not obstruct the view or physical activity of humans. In the first picture, below, we see not only a low-hanging tree canopy, but large shrubs directly below coming up into its "armpits." This is wrong on at least two counts and works against adding beauty to the scene. In order to NOT screen one's own yard, the tree canopy should be raised and the large shrubs should be placed behind the tree, nearer to the property line. Below the tree should be low plants, like a groundcover, and there should be a distinct separation between the two forms so that neither is impeding the other's space. In the sketch is shown a generic scheme about what works better and still accomplishes the goal of screening outside of the property line. A good rule of thumb for limbing up trees is that one can safely go 50% of the total height. While it may seem a little high at the beginning, keep in mind that very shortly after removing limbs, the tree will be spurred on to greater growth. As well, as it grows and remaining limbs become longer, they also become heavier and will at some point in the future, hang lower in a never ending process. A few weeks after creating a 50% of height clear trunk, it, all by itself, becomes a 40% clear trunk, which probably seems a better balance to most people. Part of the reason for keeping on top of this is because if one lets it go, limbs have a way of becoming thicker such that much more work is needed to remove them. Though the snippet picture (in the previous post) does not explain how the bed line fits into the overall yard, it does look improved by being smoother and by giving clearance to the tree's trunks. What will look good below it is a lot of some low plant ... not a little of "this and that."...See MoreMountain Laurel in shady areas, or alternative suggestion?
Comments (14)@Ang NC_7B, I'm actually in Wilkesboro, so about an hour West of Greensboro. But nobody on here knew where Wilkesboro was, so, I just say "near Greensboro". I don't think there ARE any nearby cities in 7a that people would know! Greensboro, Winston, and Hickory are all 7b, and Boone (an hour North) is 6b. I guess that Wilkesboro is the biggest in 7a NC :-O The only real difference between 7a and 7b, though, is that 7a gets slightly colder in the Winter. I'm going to have to make a trip to see the Arboretum, it sounds inspiring! @bengz6westmd, I bought a Mountain Laurel at the local nursery 2 years ago, but it didn't survive the Winter. In retrospect, nothing I've ever bought from that nursery has survived! So nowadays, I mostly buy from Lowes so that it has a guarantee. I hate choosing big box over a small business, but I hate wasting my time and money slightly more :-/ Lowes has neither Mountain Laurel nor Tensaw Magnolia right now, though :-(...See MoreJason, zone 7A, near Greensboro NC
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