Lavender Lassie

last year

Just curious and wanting flower talk!!

Any ideas on why this one isn’t talked about more?

Mine was slow to develop but was in a truly awful spot-up against a fence and it took three years for her to reach the sunlight.

However now she is just stunning. Growing up and over the fence, big bloom clusters, great rebloom, nice fragrance, spot free in a no spray yard….

I wouldn’t imagine most people would put her in such an awful spot so they shouldn’t have the early lag time like I did.

Truly baffled as to why she isn’t recommended more. Thoughts?

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oursteelers 8B PNW
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Oops! Forgot the pics🤣🤣🤣

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Mischievous Magpie (CO 5b)
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I really don't know either. I asked Matt at HCR about it once and he said "meh", so I didn't buy it.
forever_a_newbie_VA8
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Oursteelers, I was looking for a lilac/lavender rose with good fragrance. I bought a Rise up Lilac from PW thanks for the recommmendation in a thred. so far I am happy, only would like the bloom size to be a little bigger. Currently it barely reaches 2 inches.

how big is Lavender Lassie’s bloom? My rise up lilac looks similar to it and it has nice spicy grapefruit scent
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from the pickering site: http://www.pickeringnurseries.com/web_store.cgi?cod=19lav Blooms continuously - check Strong Fragrance -check Picture - check ( I will see if I get the stamens). The bush is about 6x6 and the lower stems are bare which might be the deer. Most of my OGR were purchased from Pickering and Hortico around 1987-1989. I did purchase a few bushes at Vintage Gardens in Sebastopol and the annual celebration of old roses in El Cerrito. When I was rose crazy, I planted roses anywhere that got some sun and where there was more shade, I planted Hybrid Musk. I had two large Monterey Pines that shaded the area. I got rid of them and the roses were happy If the mystery rose is Hybrid Musk, based on color it matches well with Lavender Lassie. I don't have black spot and only the HT have any fungus issues.
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Very helpful; many thanks. It does sound like LLassie blooms more or less at main rose season. Of the roses listed by Lily and Sheila I only have Crepuscule, but that never struck me as being late, and none of the Austins that I have -though they are different varieties-are late either. Plus I see that the bustopher (great name!) is in z6,so if it opens in May in that area, it ought to be fine in my area. Sheila, how long does Albertine's flowering last? Photos of this rose are luscious, and it's widely offered here in Italy, but I have read that it is one of those ramblers whose flowering is quite brief,which is a thing that I find disappointing( Paul's Himalayan Musk is like that in my climate). And how about Russeliana? That one's been on my wish list for a long time...
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Kristine LeGault 8a pnw
last year
I think we need a picture of this beauty
jacqueline9CA
last year
Yes, oursteelers - please post a photo (or several) of your Lavender Lassie.

I have one, but unfortunately our gardener misunderstood instructions one day, and cut it down to a 10" high 2 " in diameter stump one day. To my astonishment, it sprung right back up, and even put out a basal cane which would have turned it into a multi cane rose, instead of a one cane wonder. We had put a deer cage around it when it was trying to recuperate, and unfortunately, when my DH removed the cage, he was not careful and ripped off the entire new basal cane (which has never returned). So, my first advice (for any rose) is be careful to protect them from over energetic men!

Mine is putting out lots of new growth higher up, and next Spring I will post some photos on here of it (if I can continue protecting it from helpful helpers).

Jackie
Sheila z8a Rogue Valley OR
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Here is mine.

It is the larger pink with Alice Garnier below and in back, and Jeanne Lajoie above. Jeanne is more floriferous but I really enjoy my LL. Rebloom has improved with age. Mine is in a sandy poor soil area too.

Above is Jeanne Lajoie.
oursteelers 8B PNW
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last year
Beautiful Sheila!

Here are some close ups of mine. That is the lowest the sun ever hits mine and it’s not there very long. This poor rose REALLY had to work for the sunlight.

That’s why I don’t understand why more people don’t grow it. A hosta would have a hard time there and not only is she still pluggin along, I feel now she has reached the sun she is gonna explode into magnifigence
Moses, Pittsburgh, W. PA., zone 5/6, USA
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It could be that LL needs a lot of room, and is harder to work into a garden scheme than more restrained roses are. Folks with smaller rose gardens may find Lavender Lassie hard to accommodate. It would certainly be a rose if I was so smitten with that I had to have it, the design of my rose bed would have to be drastically altered for showing it to its best advantage.

I could only grow Lavender Lassie as a climber, otherwise, grown unsupported it would take up about 1/6 to 1/4 of the available space in my one and only 8'x18' rose bed. Its growth habit would also mean that it would need frequent perimeter pruning to keep it from encroaching on its neighbors. The bean pole type hybrid teas and grandifloras whose blooms are mostly at the top, like Memorial Day, work the best in my deep bed, where a shapely rose bush with blooms all over it would mean all but the very top blooms would be seen.

Moses
rosecanadian
last year
Oursteelers - I can see what you mean about having to work for the light! Beautiful roses...really scrumptious!! :)

Sheila - all of your roses are wonderful shrubs with lots of blooms...your Jeanne Lajoie is extra amazing!
fig_insanity Z7b E TN
last year
I love my LL. She is also in a less than ideal spot, on the northwest side of a HUGE Savannah holly. So she's in all but total shade until late, and then endures the hottest sun of the day. She does climb into the holly, but tends to lean away from it in search of light. If I didn't neglect her so badly I'm sure she'd do better, but as it is, she's mostly healthy and blooms off and on all season. Linda at Long Ago Roses used to have my favorite photo of LL on her website, growing intertwined with Alchymist. Here's the original on HMF under LL's listing:

LL and Alchymist at HMF

She still has a lovely photo of the combo on her front page, though it's not the original.

Here's the link, scroll down to the bottom.

Lavender Lassie and Alchymist at Long Ago Roses

I've been meaning to grow this combo together for years, and I have both roses, but somehow it has just never happened, lol.
Vaporvac Z6-OhioRiverValley
last year
That my favourite pic also and was an inspiration. Mine did poorly in a spot where Ghislaine de Feilgonde thrives, but has done better in more sun. Unfortunately the midge love her as they do most other of my roses, so I cant comment on her rebloom.
Mischievous Magpie (CO 5b)
last year
Fig, I'm sure we've all drooled over that photo at one time or another. It's the whole reason I asked Matt about LL in the first place. The color brings out the pink tones in Alchemist so perfectly. I ended up with Alchemist, but not LL. Next year should bring the first blooms 🤞
erasmus_gw
last year
Thanks, re my Alchymist / LL pic. Lavender Lassie is one of my husband's favorites for fragrance. I have two plants of it in the ground. One is very large indeed and it used to climb to the top of an apple tree and drape down until the tree died, perhaps from being shaded by LL. The other is much smaller, about 5' x 4' in the front yard in less sun. Some years it gets a good bit of bs and this year it is fairly clean.

You can see LL up in the tree on the left.

With Alchymist

I like most of the hybrid musks I've tried.
Kristine LeGault 8a pnw
last year
Holy Moly Erasmus!! Your yard is absolutely magical !! I place that I would definitely love to spend time wandering and sniffing
Mischievous Magpie (CO 5b)
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Just wow.
judijunebugarizonazn8
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That hardly looks real. What a flower fairyland!! And your lavender lassie is so packed full of petals…some nurseries that offer it call it a semi double rose. Yours looks very double to me!
erasmus_gw
last year
Thank you! You can see I'm not a lawn person. I really admire pretty lawns but I'm afraid if I fed the lawn we'd have to mow it more often, and there might not be enough real grass in there to encourage...we'd just be encouraging weeds. So the lawn is what it is. It's green. I do think Lavender Lassie is double, not semi-double though there might be more than one version out there.
jacqueline9CA
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erasmus - please post more pictures of your garden, even bits which don't have roses - so gorgeous - made my morning.

Jackie