Interesting Bart ! I never gave much thought to that but now I will . In my photos , the first handful of blooms started April 24ish . Quite a few of my other roses were already opening more. I'd say it was only a week or ten days behind but not late by any means. I'm glad I kept his rose . Last year it only needed a lite black spot treatment and it bloomed very well all summer

Thank you, bart for starting this post. There are many spots in my garden that I'd prefer a later bloom given that I'm not even using that area until late May or June. this is something I think about when considering once bloomers, but am anxious to hear thoughts on other types. I know we all garden in different zones, but early vs. last to open is a useful distinction.

Lilyfinch, I'm thrilled to know that LL had good repeat bloom and fairly low BS all summer. Is yours in any shade? I moved LL into Falstaff's old place on an East facing wall with PM shade and hope it does well there. I'm looking for a partner for it as I think I'll move VQ to more sun.

Lilyfinch, can you name some of the roses that open with LLassie? Hopefully I will turn out to have at least one, and can thus judge the timing.

Vaporvac, a few later bloomers that I have are: Rosengarten Zweibrucken,Jasmina (I wish so much that this was earlier! the blooms tend to always look kind of wilty once it does bloom, because of the greater heat as the season progresses),Hermann Schmidt...Super Dorothy is VERY late...

Thank you, Bart. I'm actually considering ordering Jasmina if I can find out if the petals drip fairly cleanly. Super Dorothy supposedly does well in my climate.

My LL opened with Albertine, Russeliana, G Nab, Mrs. B.R.Cant, Mutabalis, Crepuscule, SdlMal, if that helps.

It looks like queen of Sweden was almost all open , flamenco Rosita began its magical flush that never quit, cl clotilde soupert and Renea were about equal with LL in beginning to open and teasing Georgia just a few days ahead . Somehow I hope that helps you! :)

ps just checked 2016, it had only two open flowers May 6th! What a difference!

vapor , mine is not in any shade. It's 4 years old going on 5. Last year was the first year I was wowed by it and it started climbing. I only sprayed twice , with Bayer . I couldn't believe how quickly it cleared up after the first spray . My jasmina, .. I wish I hadn't yanked it . I knew I would regret it ! I regret every rose I've pulled just about. It was next to ballerina who had horrendous blackspot and always ended up naked ( it faded a lot so I don't regret sp that one) . Jasmina would have giant black spots on its leaves and never drop the leaves so I could treat it . It did grow in crazy directions and I was never sure what to do with it . ( apparently a pillar is excellent for her) . I do remember petals falling off themselves and they did last nicely on the branches.,I took cuttings and think I'll be trying again, this time with patience. Patience patience patience. Silly me !

My Lavender Lassie blooms about in the middle of the major flowering cycle, usually starting around Mother's Day here, the second Sunday in May. When it is in the mood, it can reflower on a much smaller scale late in August and into September.

Very helpful; many thanks. It does sound like LLassie blooms more or less at main rose season. Of the roses listed by Lily and Sheila I only have Crepuscule, but that never struck me as being late, and none of the Austins that I have -though they are different varieties-are late either. Plus I see that the bustopher (great name!) is in z6,so if it opens in May in that area, it ought to be fine in my area.

Sheila, how long does Albertine's flowering last? Photos of this rose are luscious, and it's widely offered here in Italy, but I have read that it is one of those ramblers whose flowering is quite brief,which is a thing that I find disappointing( Paul's Himalayan Musk is like that in my climate). And how about Russeliana? That one's been on my wish list for a long time...

erasmus, I have to complement you once again on that pairing! I so wish The Alchymist weren't a once-bloomer. I'm thinking of pairing my LL with Phyllis Bide or Ghislaine de Ferligonde for a similar effect, but I'm sure it won't compare. That is so perfect.

Oh my gosh Erasmus !! What ?! That is beautiful fluffy and divine. Wow ! Mine is paired with munstead wood and will be next to the generous gardener this spring. I can't wait to get photos . Yours is so nice!

I did not record Albertine's bloom length, nor Russeliana's Bart. I am probably not the best person to compare yet. I am thrilled with them. I don't remember disappointment over a short bloom length. The length of bloom would also depend on the weather probably and I am rather newly growing these wonderful roses.

Thank you Vaporvac and Lilyfinch! Alchymist often has more orange in it or a stronger honey color. I liked the lavender and cream in it in the picture. I think Lavender Lassie would be pretty with the plants you both mentioned, or any rose that had a little lavender pink in it.

that is totally delicious, Erasmus...

Thanks, Bart. I bet you'll enjoy your Lavender Lassie. I really didn't plan this intertwining of the two roses... they just did it.

I ordered LL from ARE. These pics make me happy that I did. BTW, that pairing with Alchymist is stunning!!