Looking for Climbing Vine Kept in Container for Zone 5
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- westes Zone 9b California SF Bay thanked cearbhaill (zone 6b Eastern Kentucky)
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Comments (13)Terry, here are some thoughts that come to mind... 1. If you can arrange a trip out to the Long Island nurseries you should find the junipers mentioned there. 2. If your purchasing has to be on-line then order only from www.lazyssfarm.com. A top notch nursery that babies its plants and customers. You can send them a e-mail explaining that you plan to train junipers on trellises and you need plants with a number of leaders and they will work with you. I just skimmed through their on-line catalog (drool) and note that they carry Juniperus chinenses 'Blue Alps'. Perfect for your needs. Retains its green color all winter. All container grown plants can be planted at any time of the year. 2. Because the junipers are not fast growers suggest that you intersperse them with pots in which you could grow deciduous shrubs that are attractive in the winter months. The following are available at the same nursery, Salix alba 'Flame', Viburnum carlesii (fantastic bloom fragrance) and Lonicera x Mandarin PP#11,083. The latter is a beautiful all summer blooming vine to be trellised and is considered invasive but you are growing in the concrete jungle so it should not be a problem. This assortment plus five junipers plus pots of annuals should be a good beginning for you. See how this works out. 3. Take some time to study the Winter Sowing Forum. It is an easy method which will allow you to grow annuals inexpensively. 4. Strongly suggest the following. You will need some method of securing branches and vines. The most permanent, easy to use type that I have found is a heavy duty, single-wrap Velcro. Strong, durable, attractive, almost unnoticed, sold in a green color, holds through hurricanes as I can attest. It will probably be easier for you to order it on-line from www.homesew.com. Another customer friendly company....See Moreshade vines for zone 5
Comments (4)A few more nice ones to try include Dutchman's pipe (Aristolochia durior), hardy kiwifruit (Actinidia kolomikta - but be sure to get a male clone with attractive pink-and-white foliage variegation), and chocolate vine (Akebia quinata). Hops (Humulus lupulus) will also generally grow quite well in the shade but will not fruit prolifically as they do in the sun. Stefan...See Morekudzu vine zone 5
Comments (98)The only reason I am posting (re-opening this thread) is that charfair beat me to it. Kudzu is a VERY USEFUL plant - it is edible for both animals and humans, it is a nitrogen fixer, and it would be an AWESOME feedstock for cellulosic ethanol. The problem is that the AG industry is against it, therefore the proper harvesting equipment has not been invested in. Just like electric cars - the auto industry killed them. Personally, in the North, if I was to raise sheep or goats I would plant it as a cheap fodder source. HOWEVER, I must agree with the INVASIVE argument in this sense: White Mulberry trees are EXTREMELY INVASIVE here - you CANNOT KILL THEM!!! They take over everything!!! We had one that was planted by a bird. I left it there for years, but it never bore fruit. Then, when digging up a girdled Littleleaf Linden, I noticed all these vigorous orange roots in the planting hole - they were from the White Mulberry tree about 20 feet away. So, I cut down the mulberry - it came back as a giant super-fast growing shrub! Then I did research and was warned that you cannot kill them - the roots will not die; cut branches will sprout. Yeah, right, I thought. Well, I cut down the shrubby trunks, drilled holes into them and poured in poison and then topped it off with tar. The mulberry died - or so I thought! Now I have GAZILLIONS of baby mulberry trees growing throughout my entire yard. They grow from the teeniest, tiniest piece of root. I had a bag of leaves that I was saving for leaf mould, and when I opened it in the spring it was FULL of fresh, thriving, orange mulberry roots! I had to throw it out. The ONLY way to kill it is to burn it. The White Mulberry is an invasive species from Asia (also called "Russian Mulberry"); it has almost wiped out our native Red Mulberry trees. I bought a native Red Mulberry seedling and a European Black Mulberry (not invasive) to counteract this "Devil Tree." Finally this year I gave in to the realization that the only way to deal with the White Mulnerry is to control it by going around and pulling up the tiny babies as they first get leaves in the spring - BEFORE they are hidden under all the flowers, because they grow super-fast and then the roots get left in the ground and then they come back even stronger. So, there are legitimate arguments on both sides of the Kudzu issue - it is a very useful plant, but it must be properly maintained and controlled, not simply maligned because the interests of Big AG have prevented it's commercial use....See MoreClimbing Roses in Zone 5 (thanks for your suggestions)
Comments (16)Wonderful photo of John Davis, Twros, and thanks for the tips about getting it to climb. Like Mad said, mine has struggled to survive and grow beyond knee height for some time now, but it hasn't hit the magic 4 years mark yet for a climber. Good to know that it appreciates feeding. In my yard, mbrad, I've found that John Cabot is the more reliable and enthusiastic climber, and it's rock solid hardy to the tips in a zone 4 pocket of my yard. For the first 3-4 years, it was mostly a once-bloomer with a few scattered blooms here and there, but now that it's mature it's starting to get some repeat flush blooms on and off in the year. I'd definitely recommend that one as the best climber of the four you list. Among the others, I agree with Mad that Cecile Brunner is a long shot to survive in zone 5 (I've never overwintered one with several tries), but if it does survive it's likely to be a shrub rather than climber. Give it a protected spot and hope for the best. Laguna will climb well and is mostly cane hardy for me, and it's a dark pink color that will highlight the other colors. All of your roses are in the pink family (Laguna & John Cabot are dark pink, the rest are light pink) so I think any combination of them would look fine. Next to John Cabot, Colette is the other most reliable climber in zone 5. It takes a while to get established and climb well - give any climber 4 years to get settled in before you judge its characteristics - but it has repeat bloom on and off throughout the summer. I think JC, Colette & Laguna will climb well, and JC is the one most likely to cover your arbor. For companion plants, I'd be very cautious about a grape vine. You'll notice that on your honeymoon (congratulations by the way) the pergola had only a grape vine on it. My experience has been that grapes don't share real estate well. My neighbors have some inherited vines along a shared fence line, and the grapes TOTALLY invade my vegetable garden and have mostly shaded out my tomatoes. Wouldn't take much, as it's only a part shade situation, but grapes don't play well with others. I'm happy to rein in the grapes and I love those neighbors, so we're discussing strategy for this year. Instead of grapes, I'd plant a clematis on each end of the pergola. Clematis bloom in the heat of summer when the roses are taking a rest, so it means extending your bloom season. There are some lovely clematis and they tend to be easy and LOVE our midwestern soils. Jackmanii is a common one that's around most places and it's a dark purple that would set off the other colors nicely. Clematis are totally easy care in our zone, and they're more of an instant gratification of something to cover the pergola (but give it a year or two to settle in still), while you're waiting for the roses to mature. Syri - my experiences with Japanese Beetles is that they'll eat whatever is convenient (like deer do), but they prefer flowers. There are other things that will eat the grapes themselves, including birds, but I haven't found that the grapes are all that interesting to the Japanese beetles if there's something else they like better (like all my roses). We'll look forward to seeing pictures, mbrad! Good job doing your homework on your roses. Cynthia...See Morepopmama (Colorado, USDA z5)
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