Height of LED grow lights above seedlings and light on/off timing
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daninthedirt (USDA 9a, HZ9, CentTX, Sunset z30, Cfa)
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Comments (24)Day 22 Update! Peppers and lettuce: The same peppers and lettuce from the previous shot. They're in the second-worst part of the UFO grow chamber -- far from the UFO in the center. Nonetheless, the peppers are doing beautifully. I've got a whole tray of them looking just like that. The lettuce, only so-so. They're putting out leaves at a good rate, but two of them never did stand up like I was hoping they would. Next up, the monsters: Okay, these pumpkins are getting a bit scary: The larger of the two now has three tendrils on it, and leaves the size of my outstretched hand. I don't know how much longer I'm going to be able to keep them in here before they decide to crush everything else in their path, but I'll keep them in as long as I can ;) I realized that last time I forgot to photograph my eggplants. They're doing just shiny: So, now for my crazy okra: If you'll recall, one germinated tall like a freak, but with a strong stem, and dark green leaves; one germinated short with dark green leaves; and two germinated short with pale, chlorotic yellow leaves. I credit this to using old seed. I'm pleased to report that all of them are doing great. The tall one is now working on its second true leaf, while the two chlorotic ones are starting to turn green. All three of the small ones have just started on their first true leaf; I expect they'll look like the tall one (minus the crazy height) next week. My Ronde de Nice squash that just germinated? I transplanted one, and surprisingly, the transplant is doing better than the non-transplant! Now for the one that was my biggest concern last time: my watermelon. If you'll recall, its first true leaves had turned crisp and stopped growing. Well, I'm glad to report that it has not one, but two sets of normal, healthy true leaves now! Here's a shot of some of my miscellaneous squash and melons. Not a complaint from me about a one of them; they're all growing very healthy. My cinnamon basil was looking healthy enough that I felt it time to thin it out into individual pots. The remaining plants in the original pot are below: So, what's my primary concern this time? I'm starting to suspect that I'm getting more growth in the UFO chamber (red, grow) than in the Christmas chamber (blue, veg). I'm not sure yet, though. Now, that is to be expected to some degree, since that chamber is higher wattage (~105W vs. ~85W), it may be more than that. It's really hard to tell, though, because I moved my most mature trays to the red chamber and kept the youngest trays in the veg chamber. However, I do have one good comparison point: basil. I have a basil pot in the veg chamber that's exactly the same as the basil pot in the grow chamber -- same soil, same size, same plants, and same planting time. So, next week I'm going to photograph and measure the two and see how they compare. But overall, another good week :) The plants pretty much take care of themselves (since the LEDs are pretty cool, the soil takes a long time to get dry, so I rarely even have to water). Hence, I've been busying myself readying my outdoors for the new plants, for once it gets warm enough. I'm going to be training my vining plants to strings suspended from guyed poles this year, via vine clips; should be neat to see how they do....See MoreAny thoughts about this new LED grow light?
Comments (26)I agree with the flourescents over HID/HPS... way to much heat from the big lamps... and wasted light. I get best results from running a mix of LED and Flourescents. I have my LED lights running down the middle and a flouresent tube on the side. Plants will grow LED Red/Blue mix only... done it. They seem to do better with just a bit of flouresent to fill out the light spectrum. I run a fan not for cooling but it circulates the CO2 and dries the soil top which prevents mold. My grow box is lined with cheapy mirrors to put as much of the light to the plants as possible. LEDs need adjustable height! They are cool enough to touch the plants so I keep them an inch above the plant tops. All about getting the light to the plant. I'm a tightwad so wasting even light goes against my blood... "waste not want not". Mostly I grow exotic hot peppers. Much of my outdoor garden gets sprouted in the grow box... Michigan didn't even get warm plantable weather until June this year... farmers are crying. While late in the outdoor garden I have peppers already and tomatoes any day now....See MoreLed grow lights, Zone 10A
Comments (10)I think it's great you know what to program your lights to do. If you're using LED, the most important thing is to find out the PPFD of your light. PPFD is the amount of photons that actually land on your plant, and every plant has a different required daily amount. The amount of photons that lands on your plants change drastically with the distance you place the bulb so it's best to know how many photons hit a surface at what heights. If you know the PPFD of your light, or ask the company for that information then you can provide the amount that your trees require to be healthy throughout the winter. I've been meaning to look up how much lemon trees require but I haven't looked into it yet. Good luck!...See MoreLED grow lights
Comments (2)Unfortunately there is no set graph/chart for LEDs as they vary so much from maker to maker (size of bulbs used, lens material, reflective material, etc.) so what you often see is to contact the manufacturer for guidance. As a very general guideline - 300W can easily burn plants if too close so a common test recommendation is 30" above. Then monitor the plants closely for any signs of stretching and move down to 25-28" if necessary. Any signs of leaf sunburn raise them up to 34-36". But you also have to keep in mind the footprint of the fixture (rotate trays as needed), type plant and its different light needs, humidity and air circulation, etc. as all can effect response to the lights. You might want to do some reading of the past discussions of this issue over on the Growing Under Lights forum here for more info. Dave...See Morekatyajini
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