That sounds interesting. Too bad it is not available in the USA . We all might learn something from listening.

A group of friends and I were talking about this very topic a few days ago. I'll try and listen to the report. Thanks

listened to some of it and will listen to the rest. Very interesting. I've heard of chicken soup but melons are new to me. Also heard of mustard paste but never using newspaper. Thank you for an interesting post.

I’m familiar with a lot of it but there is so much to know.

My OH and I have been looking into this since the late 80’s

I didn't try the link, but I think I probably know of many. I had a cough a while back and had a little bit of bourbon, lemon juice and Coke. It stopped almost immediately. My son thought he had Covid last week although he kept testing negative. I made him try the concoction and it worked for him too.

When I get a cold I wind up with a cough that can last a month and end up sleeping sitting up to stop the coughing. But, my mom always did the mustard plaster on my chest. I remember it used to get so hot. It didn't cure the cold or cough but it just calmed everything down so that I could sleep.

My grandmother used to use Bourbon, lemon juice, and honey for colds, but I don't remember how well it worked. She also liked Vick's Vaporub, which I hated, but I do use eucalyptus berries in the boiling water that I use for a steam inhaler.

I noticed in the podcast that the announcer said "tumeric" instead of turmeric. I stopped listening after that.

If you click on the link, satine, you will likely be taken to their location and may be able to hear the broadcast.

As for some fairly close to experts' use of language, lars, have you heard some people quite involved with nuclear matters refer to that system as "noo kyoo lar"? It's rather surprising how often one hears that from a number of them, who appear to have a fairly deep knowledge of their game.

I joined the program after the intro so didn't hear of the counsellor's pedigree. If he operates a blog or a podcast I didn't hear of it.

ole joyful

I can't resist, michelle ... but does "OH" refer to your "other husband"?

ole (mischievous) joyful

Home remedies have the stink of death to me, seriously, yuk. Hot liquids, booze, honey, all well and good for a cold, but on the whole, give me modern medicine every time.

Interesting joyful! I hadn't heard that one yet.

There are quite a few remedies that are helpful until you can get to the regular doctor. Nowadays I get just about everything checked out just in case of covid.

My cough and cold remedy is raw garlic and Sage tea. My coughs and colds usually last for three or four days. I always think I'm dying and then all the sudden it's over.

Of course everyone is different. What works for me might not work for someone else.

My Irish mother always made hot water with honey and whiskey (hot toddy) and made us drink it for a fever. No matter what age you were. It made you sweat and that's what she wanted. Broke the fever. Who knows, I was too young to know, certainly didn't continue that when older. She also used whiskey/honey on babies for teething. They all survived but I shake my head thinking of it.

When my son was born he was very colicky, crying all night and day, it was a nightmare. I took him to my Pediatrician who was on vacation and the doctor covering her told me to drink a stiff whiskey before nursing him. "He'll sleep and so will you!

I'm with you, zalco. Almost all "home remedies" and so-called folk or primitive treatments trace back to times when medical science was in its infancy with limited understanding and few proven treatments known, or even earlier. And to peoples during more modern times with little or no access to real medical services. To make do with what was available, whether or not efficacious and usually not.

Yes, I know, a limited number of so-called folk or ancient remedies have been found to have some effect. Mostly not. Some that have shown some effects seem to do so as a trigger to a placebo effect. That's real but more psychological than physiological or pharmacological.

Ole joyful. Haha! In this case it stands for ”other half” Not better, not worse, but definitely other. Sometimes I wonder how we made it this long. Next Saturday it will 39 years since we met. It took us years to get married (officially) so this is the significant anniversary.

Cingratulations, Michelle Michelle. Good for you two!

Why not combine safe home remedies and modern medicine? Take that antibiotic a d drink chicken soup Remember, we flush down millions of ”supplements.” Some help, some don’t.

I remember alcohol and honey from grandma. Kids don’t like that, believe me. ’twould help kids skeep and soothe the throat I would think.

Thanks for this topic, joyful.

Congratulations on 39 years of successful partnership, michelle!

Marriage surely does work better when it's a "50 - 50" proposition!

What a shame that still, after so many years experience, so many women have to fight so hard to be accepted as equal (and we still need so many shelters for the battered ones!).

Good wishes for many more healthy, happy years, michelle.

ole joyful

"Why not combine safe home remedies and modern medicine?"

The problems and danger concerning home remedies and some so-called alternative approaches (some of which are quite commonly used and that some confuse for accepted practices) can come about when they are used instead of mainstream conventional medical treatment.

Joyful, my dad told me that a good marriage wasn't "50 / 50", it was "90 / 90" .

"I'm certainly not a slave to modern medicine either."

If you're experiencing a medical problem, do you go to a medical doctor or instead to a homeopath? Or would you prefer to talk to someone in a vitamin/supplements store? Are you qualified to assess what the best course of action is?

Physicians are not perfect, and mistakes are made but in theory they're practicing medicine with a basis in factual science, a basis in evidence, and with the experience of their practices involving same. Better to be a slave to that than to superstitions and unproven and often made up treatments.

I havent listened yet but will. I do know that mustard plasters are part of the old "Balancing of the Humors" medical belief that lasted for hundreds of years. The intention was to blister the skin and so draw off excess phlegm I think it was. Phlegm in this case would be more along the lines of lymphatic fluid or plasma. The Humors were Blood, Black Bile, Yellow Bile and Phlegm. No one knows any more exactly what was meant by black bile by the way.

Alcohol and sugar plus flavoring is pretty much what cough syrup was for a very long time. Sugar does help calm a cough. Herbal remedies are actually medicines in impure states. You get a lot of other things along with what ever part of the herb might be helpful. Chicken soup is hydrating, warming and easily digested.

As a teenager, I volunteered at a museum that included a reproduction of an old apothecary, complete with medicines that were donated from the storage room of a store dating back to the early 1900's. Included in the exhibit was a gallon jug, still half full, of cough syrup labeled "Tolu and Heroin." I guess that quieted the cough.

Well, I'm interested, jupidupi ... did your Dad give an explanation of how that "90 - 90" proposition of his worked out in practice?

And whether it was agreed to early on by both partners ... and how about their evaluation of its success? ___________

While I have no idea of what proportion of their whole list of medicines so originated, I've heard that a number of drug companies sought information from many indigenous "medicine men" (many of whom were probably female) as to what source materials they collected in the environment to use. They then collected a number of those natural materials and found the active ingredients in some of them. They then registered those ingredients, to require that other agencies that wished to use them for similar purposes would be required to pay them fees.

Some claim that many/most? of them paid little or nothing to the experienced people who'd provided the original information about useful materials. Or on an ongoing basis when they found the active ingredients which they contained and used it to become successful and wealthy.

While I am thankful for western style medical practices, I think it unwise to claim that medicines and practices discovered and developed through centuries by hundreds/thousands? of other peoples and cultures should be lumped in to be discarded with the many with no legitimate claim.

ole joyful

joyful, the drug company "stories" you heard of are likely just that, stories. I don't believe naturally occurring individual chemicals and compounds themselves that are randomly or purposefully identified can be "registered", protected, or have ownership rights established. Names and products can be protected, but not individual ingredients absent a proven use that make them products.

As we all know, real medicines are investigated and developed by professionals. They're subject to testing to insure clinical efficacy and safety. Only when standards are met are such items made available for broad use and determined safe for a doctor's prescription and monitoring. At least in the US, items sold as vitamins, herbal or health supplements are not subject to the same restrictions and, within reason, health claims can be made about them that need not have been substantiated or proven.

You can be sure that academics and drug companies alike reasonably pursue and assess possibilities. Reliable information and regulated products come from individuals properly educated, trained, equipped and experienced to provide such and the various organizations they work for. Not from word-of-mouth comments sharing family remedies.

This is very interesting!