Transplanting mature 20 yr old Anna Olivier - will it work?
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Comments (39)None of my M27 have been real productive. I've done much better with full dwarf (B9/G11/G16), than mini-dwarf. I think M27 could be good, but only if you pay very close attention to it. Very few of my apples set very well this past year (on any rootstock). Only the Priscilla had a decent crop, about the same size as the year before, even though I had grafted over the upper portion. The apples from it were pretty good too- I'm not planning on grafting over the rest of it anymore. HGG would have had a good crop (see below). Sundance also had a moderate crop (1st time in year #3), with most others (including Goldrush and WIlliam's Pride, smaller in year #4 than in #3) having small crops. Some of it could be letting them bear too early. I thinned quite a bit, but more would probably have helped. While they are all well staked and mulched, I haven't watered them very much. I should probably give them a couple more good soakings during the dry parts of July. I got 5 in 2011 from Raintree: Ashmead's Kernel- never leafed out, but a single bud from the graft union did grow. After a year, I transplanted it back into a pot, which I later replanted after it yielded 2 apples and I verified that it wasn't just rootstock. Enterprise- looked like it had a good root system when I planted it, but it never leafed out. Akane- 3 apples in 2013 (3rd year) and probably a couple more last year. Hudson's Golden Gem- It has set big crops the last two years. In 2013, all but one of the dozen+ apples cracked and rotted. In 2014, I lost most of the ~20 apples to animals. The 3 I picked were very good. Red Boskoop- This is the biggest M27. Maybe 7.5' tall, it seems like a good size to me. It has been covered with blooms the last 2 years, but hasn't ripened a single apple. There were a few which made it into summer, but none made it all the way....See MoreAvocado transplant question:
Comments (19)My Little Cado (Dwarf Haas) planted in the ground is still living. It is completely under 50% shade cloth. I planted it against a rock wall with hay bales on the other sides to protect the lower trunk from the heat and wind. It is alive and putting on new growth but it's growth rate is something less than spectacular. Still a thin and spindly looking little tree. I had a volunteer fig tree come up a foot or so from it. I'm going to let that little fig tree remain, as I fully expect the avacado tree to die this year. If anybody reading this has had success with an in ground or potted avacado tree here in Arizona (or south eastern California), I'd sure like to hear about it. Dave...See MoreMoving a very mature Meyer lemon
Comments (15)I've spent much of my career working with trees and helping homeowners, communities, golf courses, and other tree owners learn to live with their trees. OR without them. The most important measurement I would need to have in order to determine a positive outcome for a tree transplant is the diameter at chest height and at the thickest part of the trunk....usually at the flare. If you measure the CIRCUMFERENCE, that will be a big help. The age of the tree is, indeed, very important. Trees, just like any other living thing, begin to senesce once they reach a certain age. Trees really have finite, expected life span which is largely determined by genetics though environmental factors have a great influence. The older a tree is according to its genetic expectation, the more difficult the recovery process. Compare it with a healthy younger person undergoing double knee replacements......as opposed to grandpa having the same procedure. Few people understand how heavy an established tree can be, nor how huge and widespread the root system can be. A field grown nursery tree is removed typically with a tree spade...a large piece of equipment that quickly chops a tree from the field with the full expectation that most of the roots will remain in the field. Properly field dug and then properly planted trees should have a 100% success rate, and live long and healthy lives. That being said, I'd believe that this tree has very poor prospects if you try to do it yourself. Since I don't have a history of the tree or even pictures to help determine its fitness as a candidate for a professional dig....I'd be hesitant for you to spend that kind of money. You could certainly get some estimates for transplanting. An experienced crew can hand dig a smallish tree and get it moved with little mangling, breaking of branches, trunk damage. I also think that you should choose the best place for your patio door according to YOUR needs, not the proximity of an aging tree! Unless a tree is of historical significance, of great sentimental value, or environmentally valuable I wouldn't allow it to "hold you hostage ", so to speak. By the way, is this a new patio....has there been some construction in the area? I'd plant another tree or two far enough away from the patio or any other structure or hardscape to ensure that they will never be in the way. Fostering new trees is a wonderful pleasure. In this case, I really believe that it's your best scenario.....short term and long term. We can help you avoid the usual planting pitfalls to ensure that your new trees live a long and productive life....See More3 yrs under my belt, suggestions for year 4???
Comments (19)I'd try Aunt Ruby's German Green, I like it much better than Green Giant. White Queen has a much more acidic taste than most of the other whites in my opinion and it's been on my "grow again" list for at least 5 years now.I agree that most whites are plain tasting. I've grown carbon for several years now and never been impressed with it yet. Southern Night is a great and weird shaped black tomato though. I'm putting it on my grow again list. Boat shaped, or kidney bean shaped and very prolific.Black Krim still my fave, but for a smaller tomato, black prince is pretty darned good too. Ping pong ball size. Hillbilly is a good one in the bicolor catagory I've not seen on your list yet.Big and yellow/pink. Kellogg's Breakfast is a great orange one. Large and good. Ildi yellow grape is a must have. Great flavor and doesn't crack. It will sometimes turn pear shaped if it doesn't get enough rain. They are very prolific. Agree with you on Black Cherry! they're great. I also like snow white cherry. Sometimes they crack but they taste great and look wonderful with the black cherry, and make a great contrast. I loved Pink Peach, Garden Peach, and Furry Red Boar this year for fuzzy tomatoes. Wasn't impressed with Angora red fuzzy cherry, except I liked the leaves. Didn't like Elberta Peach either. Those two weren't productive enough. Pork Chop was a great yellow tomato, kind of striped. It's on my grow again list for sure, kind of a salty flavored one. Bocek Italian is the only paste/oxheart type I've been really thrilled with. It's been on the grow again list for five years now. Russian 117 is good and large, but kind of a skimpy producer for me.Will try it one more year. Really liked amish salad this year, didn't crack and kept me loaded with tomatoes all season. Larger than a cherry, and it takes about 10 to fill a pint for the farmers market.Looks like a giant pinkish red grape tomato with that consistancy, kind of hard and good taste a little on the sweet side. About 2.5 inches X 1". Best all season producer this year; Celebrity bush (hybrid). I'd imagine the non-compact would be good too. I had the first tomato on those early,and I still have green ones ripening now that I picked before first frost. Customers with those in containers liked them too,and this was a terrible year for container tomatoes around here this year, too hot and dry. I'd bet they really would like them in a decent year....See Moreportlandmysteryrose
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