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Red oak floors look horrible, help with light stain colors needed!

kasmit00
2 years ago

We had our red oak floors stained this week, they used duraseal weathered oak/nutmeg (3:1) and it looks horrible. It is pink, almost lavender in spots. Now we have to have it sanded and re-stained I am desperate to find a light stain color (on the brown side) without a pink hue (I think grey has to be avoided as it pulls pink out, for that same reason I am not considering Bona Nordic). I also don't want orange. Would rather not bleach as I've read it isn't great for the wood. This is so stressful. We chose from a small sample board rather than insisting on sampling on our actual floors- lesson learned unfortunately. Now its time to figure something out and move on. Any suggestions??


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  • kasmit00
    Original Author
    2 years ago

    Here's the sample of 3:1 neutral Peruvian tried today. Close but still a little warm.

  • kasmit00
    Original Author
    2 years ago

    Here's the sample of 3:1 neutral Peruvian tried today. Close but still a little warm.

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  • kasmit00
    Original Author
    2 years ago

    Autocorrect messed that up sorry. That is provincial with neutral.

  • kasmit00
    Original Author
    2 years ago

    This is netral with medium brown (4:1). Looks close but I'm worried it's a little gold and the grain has a cooler contrast.

  • Kimberly Stanley
    2 years ago

    I know you are removing weathered oak, but I saw a really beautiful blend of 75% weathered oak and 25% classic gray. It was gorgeous. Definitely on the lighter side which I had given up on, Before that I was leaning towards 1 part Jacobean (or dark walnut) 1 part weathered oak, 1 part classic gray or 25%, 50%, 25%. I'm not thinking towards provincial just because I see red.

  • Kimberly Stanley
    2 years ago

    What did you decide on?

  • kasmit00
    Original Author
    2 years ago

    No decision yet unfortunately. I have tried so many samples I'm going crazy. I wish I could message you directly so we could exchange learnings. I'd love to see anything you like. I met with a designer today who recommends espresso with weathered oak or even trying medium brown with grey. Have you made any decisions?

  • Ann Marie Adams
    2 years ago

    We also went with Duraseal Rustic Beige and are very happy with way it turned out.

  • kasmit00
    Original Author
    2 years ago

    Kimberly, here's a sample you might like. My husband thinks the grain is too masked/ cloudy but I think it could work. It's a little on the Golden side of color though. It is 3 parts weathered oak (duraseal) one part sand dune (bona).

  • kasmit00
    Original Author
    2 years ago

    Kimberly did you go with the classic grey weathered oak blend? I'd love to see.

  • kasmit00
    Original Author
    2 years ago

    My friend just did 50/50 golden oak/neutral on red oak. Is this dated? I like that it's a bit darker than neutral on its own but don't want the floors to look like they're from the 80s.

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    Beth H. :
    2 years ago

    kasmit, nope, not at all. very much 'in'. look at the Boho look. these floors are perfect for that.

  • PRO
    Kristin Petro Interiors, Inc.
    2 years ago


    This is straight Rustic Beige on Red Oak. It is light with a slight gray haze.

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  • kasmit00
    Original Author
    2 years ago

    Still on the hunt for a soft light brown. I'm having the floor guy put more samples on tomorrow. I found this picture and the flooring company said it's red oak with a custom bona stain mix. Anyone have a guess how to get this color?

  • Debra Ann
    2 years ago

    Here is 50% classic grey 50% special walnut on red oak floors

  • jnakos79
    2 years ago

    OK so I’m in the same exact predicament as you and I’ve been without a kitchen sense the end of July I had to fire a guy. I hired a new guy and I found out that using “pink blocker” (by a company name Ciranova) first then just using a natural over it is probably the best bet. unless you bleach the floors and then put weathered Oak over it.

  • jnakos79
    2 years ago

    I also was a little worried with it still possibly looking like that 90s looking floor. my flooring guy told me you will not get as many gold tones like 90s floors because that is from the poly that turns an amber color. So we may use a wax finish instead.

  • jnakos79
    2 years ago

    This is my sample board against my sanded Red Oak. That sample board was done two years old my flooring guy said. And if you look closely on the left-hand side of the sample board is a line. that line is where the pink blocker ends… it’s about 2 inches of board that has NO pink blocker.

  • jnakos79
    2 years ago

    Also the stool next to the sample is that wood that’s everywhere in the stores it’s a magnolia brand and the color is what I’m OK with achieving and it seems to match up pretty well. The more I think about how light I want my floors is where I also worry about losing that BoHo coziness and going to nautical.

  • kasmit00
    Original Author
    2 years ago

    jnakos thank you! Is that natural or just a poly? Or natural seal? I would love to see it on your floors. I am so nervous about the pink I would really like to find a way to achieve a light brown. I am about to fire my guy as well, I now know its important to find someone with a lot of experience going lighter with red oak floors.

  • PRO
    Beth H. :
    2 years ago

    kasmit, the one pic you asked about looks like this one. It's 3 coats of Nordic and one coat of Traffic HD




    Did you see this post?

    https://www.houzz.com/discussions/6155964/has-anyone-used-bona-natural-seal-with-water-based-top-coat-on-red-oak





    and this is a very long post with a lot of pics regarding Bona

    https://www.houzz.com/discussions/4766317/bona-nordicseal-on-red-oak

  • jnakos79
    2 years ago

    Kasmit00
    That sample board next to the stool is “Carinova pink blocker” used then Natural finish.

  • kasmit00
    Original Author
    2 years ago

    Still looking for the right stain color for my floors. For the flooring experts on here, what do you think this stain is? Golden Oak? It just doesn't have that super golden and monotone look that I have seen so often with Golden Oak so not sure. I am trying to avoid too pink, too orange or grey and prefer not to bleach or have to use a pink blocker so I am having to embrace the red oak.


  • kasmit00
    Original Author
    2 years ago

    Kimberly or jnakos79 what did you decide on? Can you show pictures? Everything on my floors looks orange or pink so I still don't have a path forward. I would die for a neutral light brown!

  • jnakos79
    2 years ago

    I’m still with living with unfinished floors. I have yet to find someone that doesn’t blow me off or that works with bona or Ciranova products to get what I’m looking for.

  • jnakos79
    2 years ago

    I’m still living without **

  • jnakos79
    2 years ago

    That pick is definitely not golden oak.

  • jnakos79
    2 years ago

    These are two red oak floors done that look nice. What was used is in the pic

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    Destiny Albea
    2 years ago

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  • kasmit00
    Original Author
    2 years ago

    Jnakos79 I'm in the same situation. My flooring guy has no interest in helping. Looking for a new person but it's the same with others. They have too much work in my area so they don't have to try for business. I keep seeing loba invisible, is it really any different than the bona products?

  • almostdone21
    2 years ago

    @kasmit00 I have natural red oak floors finished with the water-based bona product and they look so incredibly similar to so many of these lighter stained options - all except the really badly stained ones! I would recommend anyone who wants light wood red oak to just go natural. It's far less risky and likely you will end up with a very similar result as adding stain concoctions, but with less risk that you will amplify a weird undertone. It's also less expensive and has a much faster dry time - no stinky stain to wait on. My floors turned out to be super versatile and I think they are still on trend as long as the decor around them is right for the space and compliments all that warm color. I ended up removing all the other oak - trims, cabinets etc. and going white on those elements and the floor is a lovely warm compliment without looking 80s at all.

  • Laney
    2 years ago

    @kasmit00 I'm going through this now ! what did you end up w , love yo see thank you

  • Kimberly Stanley
    last year

    I ended up doing three parts weathered oak and 1 part dark walnut. On red oak. Absolutely love it!!!

  • kasmit00
    Original Author
    last year

    Kimberly can you post a picture please? Mine still aren't done.

  • jnakos79
    last year

    Almost a year later my floors are still unfinished and I finally found a guy that’s going to bleach my floors twice and do exactly like all these wood flooring companies have posted all over Instagram! I’m glad I didn’t settle I’m glad I’m getting exactly what I want and they’re doing the exact process it’ll get me there

  • jnakos79
    last year

    There are highly experienced floor people out there and bleaching floors with a A an B wood bleach solution is a possibility. so when flooring people tell you no people don’t do that …it’s simply because they just don’t want to!

  • jnakos79
    last year

    @Almostdone21- I agree with the natural choice you’re probably 100% right about that! Cause if you have red oak floors there’s no way you can get away with not having the “red”out of red oak lol! the only way is bleach or just doing a clear.
    Do you have a pic of your floors?

  • HU-138075218
    last year

    @Kimberlystanley I’d also love to see a pic

  • email4149
    last year

    kasmit00 show us the finished look girl!!!!!

  • D H
    last year

    Agreed please show us what happened .

  • Chris S
    last year

    @Kimberly Stanley did you do your floors in the combo above? Jacobean, weathered oak, gray? My floors are being stained tomorrow and I'm doing something similar, but am a little worried they will turn out with red or too light. I'm going with 1/3 espresso, 1/3 weathered oak, 1/3 gray.


  • Sherry Scott
    last year

    @kasmit00 Did you ever find the recipe for your post from last year with the beautiful soft "brown" floors? Looks like it was a screen shot with the flooring compan of Seattle Hardwood out of Mukilteo. Had my red oak floors done in weathered oak and they are still simply too pink. Flooring guys are the best since they are redoing to make me happy.

  • HU-138075218
    last year

    I followed this post when trying to chose a stain, in the end we went with Loba easy prime and Loba Supra 2k AT on red oak and I love it. They’re light and natural. Maybe a few boards with a tinge pink but I realized pink doesn’t bother me nearly as much as orange.

  • racheleck
    last year

    @Chris S - How did that combo work and come out? Did yours come out dark or were you able to achieve a warm brown?

  • sprrkls
    last year

    @kasmit00 did you find resolution? in the same boat?

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    Glenda Mitchelll
    3 months ago

    There's a relatively new product just for this from Bona called Red Out. I don't know why more people (especially flooring contractors) know about it.

  • PRO
    Casa Rutherford
    2 months ago

    I'm in this same predicament, and it will be my THIRD and last time I can try to get that soft brown color on red oak! @kastmit00 what did you end up doing? Please share if you have a chance!

  • Margaret Hartman
    last month

    I am about to add new red oak and refinish my existing red oak. (Would have gone white oak if I didn't already have red oak - though both are beautiful floors) My current floors have an oil based natural finish. As a result, they are now very amber colored. Can't wait to get that off! I think the yellow bothers we more than the red tones. Wood is by definition - warm. I am sensing that unless you go quite dark, some red will appear. I think any color anyone chooses is a personal choice and many factors come into play, including and not limited to lighting, furnishings, rugs, fabrics etc. As I have dark wood furniture, and have a NW facing home, I am in search of a light stain that works to neutralize the 'pink' some but I definitely do not want yellow. A stain with green in it - helps to neutralize the red. Duraseal has a color called Fruitwood that has green in it. Other companies of similar stains with green. It helps warm the red to more of a brown tone - but it does make the wood look a bit yellow. In doing a lot of research - and getting some samples, I found that adding some country white to the fruitwood lightens the yellow and keeps the red more brown. I found a 60/40 blend to still have a bit too much white for my liking - so I will try something closer to a 4:1 ratio of fruitwood and country white. I very much like the sample I have so far. The plank is light but not yellow nor white and the red is toned down. If you are looking for a light stain, this may be worth a try. Happy to share photos once the floors are done - in about 2 weeks time.

  • Margaret Hartman
    last month

    Since my last writing - my floor guys introduced me to Bona Natural. Bona has 5 sealers. Nordic (quite a bit of white in it), Natural, Classic (a bit golden), Amber and Intense. I am going to go with Natural. The floors look almost raw with it on. While many don’t like red oak - I don’t mind it because it is so varied. There is red and pink - yes, but there is also tan, and light browns and interesting grain. With red oak it seems, one will always see too much red or pink or honey depending on stain mix or one has to go dark to hide it all. Dark stains are beautiful but for us with a dog and kid and dark wood furniture, light floors hold up better and show fewer scratches. In the end - its a personal choice. Almost all natural wood floors are beautiful and everything blends well with furniture and rugs. The floors color changes with the light and furnishings

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