Trolley Molly wrote-"I also don't spray for black spot or anything else, preferring to take the same tough love approach with my roses as I do with all my other plants. "Get over your black spot or die, it's all the same to me." They mostly get over it." My thoughts exactly. I don't pay any attention foliage problems, as long as the plant grows and blooms. Souvenir de la Malmaison has turned out to be a good bloomer, it has blooms right now when most don't. My Just Joey was either a poor plant ($1 clearance at Fred Meyer) or planted in a bad spot because it has not grown much. I was going to buy Tamora but went to the nursery and it had such terrible thorns I ended up getting Evelyn, Heritage, and Apricot Nectar instead. I kind of wish I had gotten Tamora anyway though because I like peachy colors. I got Westerland bareroot this year but it suffered dieback in the hot spells and is very small. I planted it in the ground anyway so I hope it makes it. I may dig up Edith Schurr again as she looks like she is declining, no leaves and only 5" of stem left. My Buck rose Distant Drums is a really good rose for cutting, usually covered with blooms, and fairly long stems. I like the buff centers on magenta flowers, and the peculiar scent, but some don't- my MIL. The rosesant forum has great Buck rose photos now, especially Carefree Beauty, loaded with blooms for an extended bloom time. My Knockout rose also blooms like that, in a neglected area of the yard where it doesn't even get watered in summer.

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Were you looking for seed from species roses? I might be able to help you with that. You might also try looking for seed from "Fairy roses" These are a selection of minature roses that are sold as seed, although you can expect variation between individual plants. (These are different from 'The Fairy' and (all/most) named cultivars with teh word "fairy" in their name. If you are interesed in growing hybrid roses from seed, you may be able to obtain seed from local rose gardens. (Although you'd have to harvest it yourself.) There is a lot of onformation on growing roses from seed on the internet. While seedlings of hybred roses will not come true from seed, there is often a family resemblance. This is a lot like people, where borthers and sisters in a family do not look alike, but do share a resemblance.