I have 3 old climbers/ramblers and one shrub rose in SE Louisiana. The Tausendschon didn't get blackspot for years, then suddenly a terrible case of it, so I cut it back nearly to the ground last year and am spraying it now. It blooms unbelievably in the spring - covered with pink. And it's thornless or nearly so. Mrs. B. R. Cant has been spot-free, but I've only had it two years. It was bulldozed up, and I pulled it out of the trash. I've got two 3yo Gardenia ramblers that were given to me and have shown no hint of blackspot thus far. Careful, these roses are a handful, I cut them back 3-4 times a year and they're thorny. Gorgeous, though. Three Agrippina climbers (or Cramoisi Superieur, Cl), which are 3 years old and show no signs of blackspot yet. They started out slowly after transplanting and just took off this year, and now they're taking over my life and my fence, lol. Another note: I inspect my roses frequently but don't spray until I see a spot.

Albertine is gorgeous! I find it a fast grower. Can't remember how long flowering was. I'll pay more attention this Spring. Good luck!

sultry_jasmine_nights (Florida 9a) SAID: "Although Mrs B R Cant might not be technically a OGR (1901), she is still pretty old lol. I really love her fragrance. I think she is one of my all time favorites . . . " BUT SHE IS AN OGR! ARS's official definition of "Old Garden Roses" is that ANY rose OF A CLASS OF ROSES that existed prior to 1867 is considered to be an "Old Garden Rose." SO, if I were to introduce a Tea Rose, say next month ... it would be an "Old Garden Rose." And people HAVE created modern-born "Old Roses". At the same time, Hybrid Musks and Polyanthas (as examples) are NOT "Old Garden Roses" because they did not exist as a class prior to 1867. Why 1867? Because that was the date of the introduction of the first Hybrid Tea Rose -- The first "Modern Rose".

I am in Flower Mound and have a variety of jasmine to trade. I am specifically looking for light pink/dark pink Damascus rose which is highly fragrant and is used in making rose water. I also love English garden roses that are highly fragrant. If its climbing rose, all the better. Other items in my search list are Brugmansia, Oleander and Clematis. If Damascus rose is available in local nurseries, I would appreciate that tip as well. Thanks