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Jay 6a Chicago
2 years agoHines
Hines Emerald Dragonfly. Listed as endangered in 1995. Current status near threatened. This insect can't exist without another species
The devil crayfish, Cambarus diogenes. The Hines Emerald Dragonfly lays it's eggs in only one place, the burrows of the Devil crayfish. Crayfish are now being captivity bred to help with the recovery effort of the dragonfly.
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Growing native azalea from seed?
Comments (17)Alicia, around here you can buy bags of long fiber dried sphagnum moss at garden centers -- I've even seen it at Lowe's, too. That's what I use. I just rub it through a strainer, the ordinary kind with a handle you can buy in the kitchen tools section of a grocery store. It's the same moss as florists use, just dried. If the potting mix stays too moist or drainage isn't sufficient, add perlite. Don't worry about the seemingly big size of the perlite relative to the tiny seed. The sphagnum moss (or live moss, like Mainegrower uses) gets the seed going and then it roots down easily into the medium below. It seems to me azalea seedlings likes a lot of oxygen in the soil and not too much wet. Once they get beyond a certain size it becomes less critical. The other thing to do is make sure your containers have as many drain holes as you can reasonably punch in the bottom. I use an ice pick and put maybe 20 sizable holes in the bottom of a 3" x 5" container. You want the water to flow freely out of the bottom. Soeur...See MoreRE: Anyone growing native species roses? Continued
Comments (150)I had read the comments from the Tea Bag ladies, but will go back to one of the first questions I asked about 'Francis Dubreuil', when this thread first began to drift from its original topic: Was the original 'Francis Dubreuil' a "true Tea", or was he a "Hybrid Tea"? Or was he that other thing, a "Tea hybrid"? The earliest descriptions of FD say his color was a dark red with pink or cerise or amaranth highlights. My assumption is that 'FD' was darker than other red Teas, but would not have looked terribly out of place hanging out with other reds such as 'Gen Gallieni', 'M. Tillier', 'Souv. de David d'Angers', 'Mlle Christine de Nouë', ''Corallina', 'Safrano a Fleurs Rouges', 'Princesse de Sagan', 'Bardou Job' and- of course- 'Souv de Therese Levet'. Here's a 1901 review from a German rose reviewer about Francis: "Francis Dubreuil (Dubreuil 1895) is not only one of the most excellent red Tea roses but also one of the best Tea roses of all. The flower is in fact only of medium size, and sometimes even small, but keeps extremely well. It lasts In bud form for a very long time, and is then at its most beautiful. The growth is vigorous and the crown is well branched. What I like most about this rose, is its capacity to produce solitary flowers on long, upright stems, I do not like roses in flower umbels (in clusters). Its floriferousness (flowering period) is very long, it lasts right up to the frosts." That mention of "solitary flowers on long, upright stems" makes me think we might find some HP ancestry in Francis' background, no? And it accords well with other early mentions of FD having "diffuse growth"... Here's an early discrepancy, though; the review above says 'FD' "lasts in bud form for a very long time, and is then at its most beautiful". Contrast that with an earlier British review- Francis "is described as full flower of a fine form, opening very readily, perhaps too much so"... So if Francis was dark red and had diffuse growth, he seems to be quacking like an early HT, and not a "pure Tea"? Was he classified as a Tea because of his fragrance? According to Guillot, 'FD' is descended from 'Souv de David d'Angers' (described as "deliciously fragrant" in 1864) who is in turn descended from 'Caroline', the Tea that may be synonymous with 'Bermuda Spice'. Some early reviews of 'FD' say he is fragrant, most say nothing, and at least one reviewer says "not fragrant". This assortment of varying opinions shouldn't be surprising, given humans' different capacities for smell, and given the way odors can vary according to temperature, time of day, etc. The scent of Tea roses seems to be especially elusive, and elicits a confusion of descriptions, so I'm inclined to believe that the original Francis probably had a Tea scent and was fragrant to some people and not to others. However, I think it's also possible that if there were an early confusion with at least one grower offering a different rose as 'Francis D', the differences in opinion about form and fragrance could stem from an early switcheroo. Just because there was a later mix-up with 'Barcelona' doesn't mean there wasn't also an earlier mix-up somewheres down the line. And if there were an earlier misidentification, this early imposter might be the rose that was later sent from Sangerhausen to Oz in 1981? Another question I have relates to size. The Tea rose grown by Mr Knight just outside of Sydney was a large rose bush. The roses grown in the U.S. and Oz as FD today both seem to be more compact and HT-like (although the Aussie plant that hails from Sangerhausen seems to have a earlier HT look than 'Barcelona' does?) I'm trying to get things straight in my own head, so if I'm off-course in my suppositions, please get me back on track. Virginia...See MoreFestuca Rubra Molate - growing native fescue from seed?
Comments (6)I have a colleague that has some in her garden and it died back last summer even with some summer irrigation. I don't know yet if it is coming back. The Achillea hung in there though. I would guess that it was given about 30-40% ET0 in summer. I would plan on probably giving it at least 60% ET0 if I were growing it here in LA. That means about 4 inches of water in July. This post was edited by nil13 on Thu, Nov 27, 14 at 14:46...See MoreGrow Native! Container Garden Contest
Comments (0)Could be fun... Here is a link that might be useful: Grow Native! Container Garden Contest Info...See MoreJay 6a Chicago
2 years agoWhat have you tried to get rid of the weeds? I went to the woods to see if the Asclepias purpurascens were blooming, and they were.
Tall Erigeron philidelphicus. I'm thinking of it more as a nice native, and less as a weed.
A nine foot tall Dasistoma macrophylla
I hope that one day my purple milkweed looks like this.
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An Ipomoea pandurata sucker that is growing in a spot where it will me mowed regularly. It should be rescued by someone. I could introduce it to another park? Guerrilla diversifying.
Ptelea trifoliata with some leaves eaten.
The only Bidens volunteers are growing in the bricks, so I'm leaving them be.
The pandurata is now climbing up the Showy Milkweed. I hope they bloom simultaneously and make a great picture.
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2 years agoThe pandurata has more red coloring in it's stems and the leaves have a little red coloring on the margins, and the leaves are thicker than regular morning glories and bindweed.
This is a pandurata sucker about 5 feet from the main plant. This will get mowed and never grow big. My vine is a rescued one of these.
Jay 6a Chicago
2 years agoThe pandurata has more red coloring in it's stems and the leaves have a little red coloring on the margins, and the leaves are thicker than regular morning glories and bindweed.
This is a pandurata sucker about 5 feet from the main plant. This will get mowed and never grow big. My vine is a rescued one of these.
Jay 6a Chicago
2 years agoJay 6a Chicago
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Erigeron philidelphicus
Dasistoma macrophylla 9 feet tall
A graminoid?
Petelea trifoliata
Iris S (SC, Zone 7b)
2 years agoHa ha, Skip. Horse poop in your compost? I would never be able to let my dogs go into that area. They love to roll around in that stuff.
Great pictures Jay! Happy to report that there are a lot of fireflies around this year. Had a little thunderstorm earlier. The little wasps all huddled together.
Carpenter bees really have the perfect size to get all the pollen from the passion flowers.
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2 years agoNice pictures all. Never head of Dasistoma. I was afraid my dog would roll in the compost too but he hasn't discovered it yet.
Coneflower and NJ tea are starting to bloom.
Viburnum nudum is blooming nice
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Carex blanda, zigzag goldenrod, Helianthus divaricatus, Hieracium venosum. The rattlesnake hawkweed has lost its cool foliage colors while flowering. There's a bunch of small Chasmanthium latifolium too, and a bunch of stuff I need to weed out.
Other side of the Carex there's some Collinsonia canadensis, (small) poke milkweed, and (small) Aralia racemosa
Penstemon tubaeflorus, very similar to Penstemon digitalis but flowers later.
Penstemon calycosus
Common milkweed started flowering yesterday or the day before.
I went to Brooklyn Botanic garden today too with the family and met my sister in law and her kid and husband since they live within walking distance of the garden. It was alright. The native flora was mostly deep forest flora. It felt a little unfair because the whole garden is so open and vibrant with all these rose cultivars and just the brightest flowers from around the world then to get into the native flora garden you have to walk through a sumac thicket, and these sumacs were like 20ft tall with deep dark shade, it was liking walking into the black forest. Not the friendliest representation of our flora. Then in the light gaps it disnt look like they weeded or took care of anything and you had these 6ft tall thickets of early sunflower and Monarda didyma crowding out everything else.Jay 6a Chicago
2 years agolast modified: 2 years agoNice variety of species Skip. Can't wait to see it when everything gets big. Can you save me some HIEVEN and PENTUB seeds. The leaf veins on my plants got paler when they were blooming too. Every time my Hieracium had ripe seeds, I removed the seeds and cut off the old flower stalks. They would then rebloom a couple more times. I ordered some high wading boots, because I'm going to have to be walking in swamps soon.
Sambucus
Asclepias asperula
Asclepias variegata. I've been waiting years to see this. This plant was forming another flower head, but it was aborted. I have 7 or 8 variegata plants total. I'm bummed because some purple milkweed seedlings that I planted last year never came back.
Asclepias texana
Clematis pitcheri
Clematis pitcheri
Asclepias syriaca
Lower Rock Run Preserve
Lower Rock Run Preserve
This guy mows around any plants that self sow into his lawn. Eventually it will be a prairie.
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2 years agolast modified: 2 years agoWow awesome to see that Variegata flowering. The other ones and clematis are cool too. I saw this in the woods today
Indian cucumber-root Medeola virginiana.
Jay 6a Chicago
2 years agoIris S (SC, Zone 7b)
2 years agoNice pictures, Jay! My daughter went to take a course on aquatic insects in Highlands, NC. 2 hour drive. it was 87 here and 71 there. Thats temperate rainforest for you. Let’s hope her waders don’t leak. Water there is probably really cold.
Skip, that’s a nice looking plant. Need to look it up.
The Japanese beetles are really bad this year.
Gave this little one a tour of the yard
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2 years agoInsects love you Iris you must have a special connection, they know you're the one planting all those plants for them.
I spent a bunch of time weeding, mowing dead grass stubble, raking the seed bed, and setting up the sprinklers. I'm going to hopefully direct seed tomorrow. Maybe just germination code A plants, then the other stuff in the fall and winter. I'm excited, hope it works!
I weeded this mess some and put down some mulch. Hope it helps out the Turks cap lilies I have in here. I need to move a bunch of plants out of here, I have 2 blueberries, a wingstem, a few new england asters, NY aster, purple giant hyssop, and a late boneset that need to be relocated. The priority plants in here are Phlox paniculata 'jeana', Lilium superbum, Cirsium pumilum, Gentiana saponaria, the Penstemons, Packera obovata, and Liatris scariosa. I had planted a Tephrosia in here but I don't think it grew back. I have some Aletris farinosa in a milk jug I want to plop down in here too.Jay 6a Chicago
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2 years agolast modified: 2 years agoI think the lupine I grew was polyphyllus mislabeled as perennis. I planted a bunch more perennis this year, from a different nursery this time but also not a conservation nursery, so I'll have to see what they look like next year.
I direct seeded the meadow area just now. I put down little bluestem, silky wild rye, bottle brush grass, Virginia wild rye, fringed brome, sprengel's sedge, Rudbeckia hirta, Echinacea purpurea, Pycnanthemum tenuifolium, penstemon digitalis and hirsutus. Just need to get some green stuff growing. I think I'm supposed to let it grow to 18" then mow it down to 8" for the first year. I'll use a string trimmer to do that. I'll start planting out plugs and potted plant soon too.
Im gonna cut down that shrub in the middle after the fourth of July, it's a tree stump that sprouted.Iris S (SC, Zone 7b)
2 years agoWow Skip, this looks like a pretty big area. I am not planning on planting anything else until Fall. what is in pots is going to stay. Butterfly weeds are blooming.
Good thing the common milkweed leaves are so big. The tussock moth cats are getting fuzzy. And are really hungry. Saw 3 more batches of tiny ones.
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2 years agoCan’t wait to see what this area is going to look like. I doubt you will miss it once the tussock moths show up. Didn’t get any of the pop up storms, just a little drizzle. Just a few little clouds around.
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2 years agolast modified: 2 years agoIris S (SC, Zone 7b)
2 years agoSkip, I still don’t have any kind of border on several flower beds. They grow a few inches every time I am weeding.
Everybody is always saying that Jerusalem Artichoke is a terrible spreader. It’s on the daily dinner menue for the deer. They are in the sickle pot patch. Can’t currently weed there properly since I don’t want to stomp on sulphur eggs and cats.
At least they are currently leaving the Schweinitzii alone.
Finally the Figworts are getting some visitors.
At least one of the cecropia cats made it to the third instar. Hard to keep track of them.
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2 years agolast modified: 2 years agoIris S (SC, Zone 7b)
2 years agoJay 6a Chicago
2 years agolast modified: 2 years agoIris S (SC, Zone 7b)
2 years agoJay, non of the croton seeds grew last year. I scattered more in late Winter, but have not seen anything. Getting close to weeding in that area, but I am not sure I would regocnize them..
Here is what started blooming now. Or some of it.
Midas fly laid eggs in the dirt all around a tree stump. She was huge! Still having the weird typing issues here.
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2 years agolast modified: 2 years agoThe sun ruined the pictures. I'm going back early on Saturday. None of my syriaca have bloomed yet. Do yours have a strong fragrance?
Asclepias amplexicaulis
Aletris farinosa
Native orchid
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2 years agoThat’s a great looking milkweed patch, Skip. Mine are in between blooming and getting seed pots.
Do you have Monarchs yet? I still see one or two a day stopping by for food. unusual, but everything is late.
I can’t really dexide on a favorite plant for the front. I do have new colors every day. No regard for any color wheels expert gardeners always mention.
Still didn’t see any tomato/ tobacco hornworms on here. Also late.
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2 years agoJay 6a Chicago
2 years agoYour milkweeds look good Skip,, better than mine.. Have you seen any shoots come up further from the main plants? Beautiful pictures Iris. That's a great combination of plants. I hope someday my royal catchflies will look like yours. Some kind of bugs have been attacking my RC plant, but oh well, I'll just keep planting more. I'm more worried about ticks and chiggers. I think there might have been a tic on me. I have to walk through higher vegetation now to find plants. Areas I would normally avoid before. I was trying to climb a steep sandy hill, and all the sand kept slipping. At least I didn't disturb anymore bee hives. I wasn't expecting to see any Aletris around my area.
Lead Plant
The seedlings that need more time.
The sandy garden. Acmispon americana, Helenium amarum, Pseudognaphalium obtusifolium, Gaillardia aestivalis, Eryngium yuccifolium, Dalea purpurea, Phemeranthus calycinus, Amorpha canescens, Coreopsis lanceolata, Isotrema tomentosum, Asclepias viridis, Aslepias arenaria, Asclepias viridiflora, Asclepias stenophylla, Asclepias pumila, Glandularia bipinnatifida, Monarda punctata,
The seedlings ready to be planted. The pots in the bin have Apios priceana and Asclepias amplexicaulis, and they need a lot more time.
Callirhoe bushii, Ceanothus americana. Bushii is much bigger than involucrata. There's another possible border plant.
Filled this side with Sium sauve, Cnidium monnieri, Asclepias incarnata, white flowered, Blephilia ( not sure which), Asclepias nivea, and Chrysopsis villosa.
So I'm finishing off this bed and I put the tallest plants in the middle. From the bottom is Hypericum prolificum, Silphium terebinthinaceum, Silphium integrifolium, Helianthus occidentalis, and Coreopsis tripteris. Off to the sides I have so far added Monarda citriodora, Oenothera pilosella, Circium altissimum, Euphorbia corollata, Parthenium integrifolium, Coreopsis palmata. I'll probably add an aster a goldenrod, and a Brickellia. Get more purple and red and blue to offset the yellow.
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deanna in ME Barely zone 6a, more like 5b