what to do about a tired, old screened-in porch
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Comments (2)Thanks you so much for your response. I have seen a container at a pet store that I have been thinking about using. Seems like I have seen some pics of them as other people's "houses" on other threads. So I should move them in their current state and continue to feed until they stop eating? I certainly understand that nature can take care of itself and it did fine before me and will do just as well after. I think this is the same phenomenon that I used to tease my mom about when I was in college. When I was 5 hours away and she had no idea where I was or what I was doing, she never worried or lost sleep. I'd come home at breaks and she would know I went out with friends that she loved and she'd stay up until I came home. I could never understand why she worried more when she knew where I was but it must be something like this. These cats are under my wing(so to speak) and I feel a responsibility not to screw their lives up. And something about being a mom makes one an expert at borrowing worry! Thanks again! Meredith...See MoreAdding a sun/screen porch to an old house
Comments (9)A sunroom or porch with a western exposure may become extremely hot during the summer, although as you point out you can mitigate that somewhatby opening windows, fans and of course, the old fashioned favorite of slatted blinds (though covering the windows with slatted blinds all day somewhat defeats the light-trapping effect of a sun room). On the plus side it will protect the main house from excess heat during the hottest months when the sun is high in the northwest late in the afternoon. You may be surprised how extremely hot a west/northwest-facing sunroom can get on a long, clear day in July - in can be brutal! The downside of a northwestern orientation for a sun room is that in the winter it will get only reflected light, no direct solar gain, which may make it a chilly space. You didn't mention whether you plan to have the space separated from the main house by walls and doorways. That would be best, because otherwise the sun-room temps, good or bad, will be a challenge to the indoor climate and the heating and cooling devices you are using. If you can close off the space when needed you can take advantage of any favorable temperature exchange, while limiting the unfavorable conditions, especially at night in the winter, or late afternoon in the summer. In response to the suggestion that is a good thing to locate a sunporch on southern expoasure in the north: Acually having a sunporch on the southern exposure is the worst in a cold, northern climate. Not because the space doesn't get warmed directly by the sun during the day, of course it does. The problem comes when the sunporch changes the way light penetrates into the main house, creating a cave effect in the interior making it feel cold and dark in the winter. The net effect of this is to degrade the existing space in favor of the more marginal, and harder to heat, sun trap space. People often get confused by this idea, since we all know that designing a house with good passive solar orientation is great thing. It's good for energy savings, and it makes rooms very attractive and livable. But it falls down when the sun trap space projects beyond the main vertical elevation of the largest massing of the structure. This then creates the depressing, energy wasting space in the (now) deeper interior. You have to evaluate the siting on a case by case basis, as a rule, the more directly southern the exposure, the worse it is. In general, I think an eastern facing sun room is probably best in the south, and a western one (as long as it can be isolated by doors and walls) is the best choice in the north. As far as the OP's thoughts about heating: most add-ons like this will present very complicated problems for a wood stove chimney which must be tall enough to rise above nearby taller parts of the house. From the OP's descrition of the dimensions it sounds hard to find a suitable place for such a chimney. It's always possible there's an existing location that could be used, but generally wood stove chimneys don't draft well (with all the attendant safety and air quality issues of poor draft) unless they are up in the clear. You might however consider either a propane/gas or pellet burning stove, both of which can usually be directly vented through the walls with a minimum of fuss. Electrtic heat is probably the simplest and cheapest to install, but not usually the cheapest to run. But if you are not sure how much you will use the space, then it might be a good initial choice as a trial, as the DV stoves can usually be easily added later. I'd still recommend you create a scale model of the space and the main house (easy to do with cardboard from boxes and tape) and do a mock up. Make it big enough (at least a couple of feet) so you can look in and through it and experience the change of light you are proposing. If you like it, then you will be happy with the results, at no cost other than an afternoon spent making the model. Just make sure when you are standing outside looking through the model that it is oriented exactly the same as your house. L...See MoreNeed help deciding what to do with old porch...
Comments (1)If you don't think you'll use it much, I'd go the least expensive route, which would probably be the covered porch. The roof is an asset imo since it's in good shape....See MoreConfused about best finish for cedar screen porch
Comments (0)We are building a screened in porch onto our existing porch. We are using red wood cedar. The porch faces west and we live in Mississippi. I do not know what my options are for finishing the wood. Aesthetically, at first I thought I would either paint or solid color stain the wood white to match the deck railings and the windows and trim on the house. Once the cedar went up I wanted to retain the dark brown color and match it to the brown stained french doors coming off the house into the porch. Issue there is the 10/10 post, the 2/6 boards and the 2/4 boards are all different color cedar. We also plan to have french doors made for the screened porch to mimic the ones on the house. That is another reason I would like to keep the dark wood color. I need to know if there is an option to have the screened porch match the French doors/retaining the dark color of the 2/6’s? And if so, what primer and stain do I use? I also have read I only have about 14 days to start staining the cedar before it loses its absorption properties. If there isn’t an option to stain it to retain the deep brown wood color, do I paint the wood or stain it with a color stain. If so, do I have to sand it and what primer and type of paint would I use. I have spent hours online and calling different stores and seem to get more confused the more I research this. I’m attaching a couple of photos of the screen porch during construction and the French doors going into the house (which need to be refinished soon). Thank you for any advice....See Moregraywings123
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