Katie - That could be a real possibility too. Looks like the height would work too. Thanks for the link and website. Redroze - I saw the two you posted on TOCL website today and really like both. I am planning on contacting them tomorrow. Here is my question, do you think this light from Rejuvenation is close enough to the top picture in your last post? The one from Rejuvenation is a little cheaper and I've seen it in person in satin nickel, but I'm not as crazy about the extra "balls" and "bulbs" on the rods. The one from TOCL seems simpler to me and might be worth the extra couple of hundred of dollars. Or would no one notice the difference? I swear I'm not normally this picky and usually can find lots of things I like, but for some reason now I feel like this stupid light has to be just perfect since I've already returned one. I should just had my electrician do two electrical boxes, but now the one is centered in the ceiling and he would have to cut two new holes and patch the old one. I'm not sure I want to go down that road. Here is a link that might be useful: Rejuvenation Light

Thanks for all of the input!!! It sounds like a pendant may not be in my future. I loved the idea of it but as I was looking at it more, I was worried that there might be too much going on there. I was having second thoughts and wanted to get opinions from all of you. Holly-Kay: we are planning on changing out the chandelier above the table to a bronze finish to tie in with the darker wood and fireplace things. But I see how a pendant above the sink might be too much. Snookums2: we removed the dark screens and it looks much better. I can't wait for everything to get started! I thought about tiling to the ceiling but wasn't sure since our cabs don't go to the ceiling. We are going to add a taller crown but nowhere near ceiling height. That may be the subject of another post. Nosoccermom: great idea about hanging a balloon. I don't have photoshop but maybe I could cut and paste something there and post again. Thanks for the suggestions!

I like them all, but not number 2, but maybe that one will work for your taste- it's just not mine. I really like 3 and 4 (the one your husband likes).

Kelleg i agree to using a similiar mounting height but if I'm seeing sources suggesting 30-36" above counter then add 3" for every foot that becomes more of a disparity than a few inches. I do have an electrician but I was trying to nail it down ahead of time so I don't drive him crazy before he comes to do the job. The pedants are large and are just under the max recommended for size of the room when I've done the math. I plan to do 2 . I won't know until I see them up and the problem is they are a little heavy and awkward. I'm going to try to see if I can get DH to just rest on top of a ladder or something so I can see. I've been trying to figure out how I could hang some beach balls from the ceiling to give me an idea Lol but I can't figure out how I can get up there! I even googled the cost to rent scaffolding haha. zorro I agree to some extent but after having a 24" pendant installed in the eat in dining part of this room I missed the mark slightly selecting the right size so I don't want to do that again. since that day I always saw something larger needed. The height I selected was fine at 36" off table so maybe I just need to address getting size of the pendants to fit the scale of the room? In hindsight I kept thinking I should have had the same size as what I had installed in my foyer. I guess I'm being fussy but I want it right ... just like you I didn't want to see bulbs in certain applications. I've read some great articles that have had some great guidelines that I had not considered here: https://www.bobvila.com/articles/21907-pendant-lighting-101/#.WRtHo_D3aEc https://www.google.com/amp/www.decoist.com/2013-03-21/hanging-pendant-lights-ideas-inspiration/amp/ The second one I agree with the point that your trying to almost bring the ceiling down visually so that it looks like a more normal height and also I'm trying to fill some of the empty space if that makes sense. I have plain empty walls where vault continues up and rather than hanging art thought it would be cool to have decorative lighting against that plain backdrop of wall space. Vinmarks it may just be what I like but again it's based on my experience with my current dining pendant being to small for the space and too much dead space above...just trying to find a balance. StanZ thanks I agree 100%. I'm 5'6" but my gang is on the taller side 6' to 6'3" i'm leaning to starting at least 36" but wondering how high after that? bbtrix great idea with balloons! Your look great. I definitely don't want vision obstructed either. I don't care for any pendants that low. I like how yours are placed. From that pic they look nice just above fridge with the white cabinetry as a backdrop. Also in first pic with balloons I do like that they are more down in front of the tops of the cabinets rather than floating in ceiling area. That picture helps! My pendants will hang the opposite way of your vault tho if that makes sense. How high is the vault at which your pendants are mounted from floor to ceiling?