Are any maples that truely mostly shade trees? (30 feet or less)
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Comments (15)I guess our yard is a good size ... we have 1/3 acre ... and we love it ... but when the tree service cut down our maple, he said "These trees shouldn't be grown in small yards like yours." It kind of intimidated us to planting anything but "small" trees. Nevertheless, as I have been aptly reminded by many comments here, and I thank you for them, our yard really isn't that tiny, and there is a lot we can do. I just remembered that my neighbor is growing a white pine at the back of their property, so I don't know what I am worrying about. We do have a large white pine at the far back corner of our property, so there is shade there, but not until the afternoon. We love that tree even though it's huge (80' I'd guess). The rest of the backyard is a blank canvas. Thanks for all the suggestions ... we will look around more & consider all our choices & not be too hasty. The thermometer said 98 today ... this shouldn't be until July !...See MoreFiltered shade tree, near a patio suggestions
Comments (8)Thanks for all the suggestions and advice. I love Bald Cypress so I think I'm leaning towards that but I'll have to look into Black Gum and Princeton Elms and see if they're sold around here. I guess Princeton are resistant to dutch elm disease? Nevermind I see in your link it says they are.They both look like awesome trees. I considered oak but I thought they were a denser shade. If there are any oak recommendations though let me know. We had 2 huge Pin Oaks growing up and I don't remember seeing any surface roots and one was very close to the driveway. Ken, we will definitely be removing the Bradford Pear too. We've already removed one from the front yard. We had 2 Bradford Pears and a Silver Maple when we moved in. Lucky. We didn't know anything about trees then or what they were or we would have replaced them immediately. This post was edited by ajMilo on Mon, Jul 1, 13 at 19:01...See MorePlanting large number of mostly red oak trees
Comments (8)"Eventually I'd like to have some established timber stands but for now I'm hoping to line the road side about 20-30 feet back, two sides of the property and some on each side of the long driveway with red oaks and a few other species. Problem is I don't really have a clue when it comes to planting trees and this would be a considerable investment especially since I'm tempted to go ahead and plant older/bigger trees. I've estimated about 1500 feet of road frontage and then about 2000 feet for the 2 other sides. So I'd like to end up with something like 130+ trees." To prevent a dense thicket of weeds & such from growing up around your trees, you'll be mowing (maybe bush hogging) around them. Any thoughts on how you plan to make your trees stand out, so you mow around them & don't hit them with mowers or weed whackers? The suggestion to start some with acorns got me thinking about that. I tried several tree rings this year for newer plantings, but found out water doesn't penetrate past the weed barrier underneath well at all. Mulching 130 trees over a few thousand feet could be a hassle, and since a mulch bed can actually soak up light rains before they reach the soil, could work against you a little in theory if you're prone to hot, dry summers by chance. So be ready to water a bit if next summer goes like this last one did! I also suggest you diversify; perhaps some white oak group for more oak wilt resistance (if memory serves), some yellow poplar (a.k.a. tulip poplar, which isn't a poplar), red or sugar maple... Maybe some different varieties of pecan tree that will cross-fertilize each other, for wildlife (& maybe people) food? Richard....See Morebest way to plant 30-35 trees easily
Comments (31)So long story short: here I am, ready to get my trees next week and still no holes dug yet. Winter in Colorado was unusually awful and I was buried from December through 3rd week in March. Had a couple weeks to dig holes in nice weather -- didn't, wife said too early ... and it's been crap weather since (rain all day, or snow). So this weekend the weather MIGHT cooperate ... being 50's on Sat and 60's on Sun ... so I'm thinking about getting a ditch witch with a 36" hydraulic auger on it and doing the following for each hole I dig. I have a bad back -- yeah, it's been repaired -- but I'm using the machine mainly to make things easier on myself and yes, faster. The hole locations have been determined on my plans, which have changed a bit since I last posted the plans here ... and I still need to mark them in the yard and make sure they avoid the utilites [ which have been marked ]. THe buried utilities should be 19" down (or more). When I trench my entire back yard for sprinklers, I never had a thing and was working with a 10-14" deep trench. The utility company said a minimum of 17", but that was done before my builder back-filled and additional 6-18" on top of the original grade. So I'll rake back the mulch in a 4' (or 5') wide circle around each hole location, then auger out the 3' diameter hole, only down 12-15" max. This is for the dirt to have somewhere to go without ruining too much mulch in the process. [Q: should I even worry about my 4-5" of mulch?] The plan would be to rake the mulch back around the tree (not too close) after the trees are planted. Then I'll back fill the outer 10-12" of the 3' hole by hand (shovelling) the edges to create a bowl shape hole which is full depth in the center 12-15" and then tapered to the edges with the back fill. Do I need to rake the mulch back, or could I just auger into the mulch and all? Any ideas or comments appreciated. THe local "colorado experts" still say amending is normal around here, but I'm tempted to skip it and let the trees finds happiness in what I have. I could mix some mulch in if that would help. My mulch is about 2 years old and nice and black (soil-like) on the bottom. Planting about 15 bare root trees and 15 balled and bulapped. I'm having to kind of guess on the actual size of the trees since I really don't know till next week when I go to pick them up. They are advertised as 1.25" caliper. Thanks, Scott...See MoreChristopher CNC
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