1200 square feet floor plan feedback and suggestions (ADU)
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7 children in 1200 sqr feet, anyone done this?
Comments (40)I loved reading these comments! It is fun to hear other people’s stories about growing up. My husband and I just built our first house a little over a year ago. We are 27 and 28 (no kids yet) and plan for this to be our house for at least the next 10-15 years. Ideally we would love for it to be our forever home if possible. Our lender wanted to approve us for a $300,000 loan (at 26 years old, yeah right) which around here would buy a VERY nice house. We opted instead for a 1240 sqft house at $167,000. We wanted a small loan with plenty of money to travel, buy a pool, travel trialer, nice vehicles, and do anything else we choose over the next decade plus. I’m also considering being a stay at home mom when we have kids one day so we wanted a small enough loan we could easily afford on one income. We built our house on a nice corner lot with a large, fenced in backyard. We have the backyard planned out to include a large above ground pool (to be installed this summer), a fire pit (also to be installed this summer), a shed to house pool and yard equipment, planter boxes for a garden, and plenty of room for a future swingset and room to run. We also have a large driveway with a basketball goal. We plan to have 2-4 kids that will be raised in this house AT LEAST into their early teens. (Would prefer longer). When we built the house we did so planning to utilize the outside as much as possible. We love being outdoors and plan to raise our children to love them too. I would much rather spend my days outside than sitting in a large house, this was true for my husband and I as children and as adults, so spending money on tons of indoor space was not appealing. Utlizing the outdoors (backyard tent camping as a slumber party, roasting marshmellows around the campfire, swimming all summer) is, in my opinion, an amazing childhood compared to sitting in your room. We were picky about where our lot was, we choose a housing addition that is close to the elemnetary school and middle school and park (about 5-10 minutes on bike), one minute drive from the major highway, and about an 8 minute drive into the big subburd. The housing addition has a country feel around it, but is close to everything which is something that was important to us. I could walk the kids to school on nice days with a country vibe around me and still be to the bowling alley or skating rink for birthday parties in less than 10 minutes. We wanted a big backyard but didn’t want to pay for acreage or land, so a large corner lot made the most sense. We have room for the things we want but do not have to pay a premium price. The house is 3 bedrooms and 2 baths with a large living room and good sized kitchen for the size. The table in our dining room fits 6 and we could probably upsize to one that fits 8 if we wanted to, but it would be tight. We have an attached 2 car garage with a 3 foot bumpout for extra storage. Right now we leave one car in the driveway and only park our Jeep in the garage so we have room for our ping pong table which gives us another hangout place when we entertain. We have easily entertained 6 other adults (8 people total) in our living room so I am confident 2 to 4 kids will fit nicely in there with room to spare. If we have 3 children then two of them will have to share a bedroom and all of them will share rooms if we have four (2 per room). However, the rooms are a good size for bunkbeds or 2 loft beds with desks underneath which is what I plan on doing. I also plan to one day turn our patio into a sunroom with a TV, video games and table for board games as an extra place for the kids and their friends to hang out. I firmly believe people live in way too big of houses today. I spent half of my childhood in a 1200 sqft house and half in a 2400 sqft house. I loved both houses, but the 1200 sqft house always felt more like home. The 2400 always felt empty and when I lived in it I envied friends who had smaller ”homier” houses. With proper planning, I think people can easily raise 1-4 children in a 1200 square foot house. If you have more children than that I think you should upgrade to a 4 bedroom house which would probably mean more around 1500-1600 sqft. I think the problem is a lot of people do not have the foresight to plan ahead. People like the OP buy 1200 sqft houses with plans to raise and homeschool over half a dozen children there. If you know you’re someone who wants to have lots of children then plan accordingly. I know sometimes life happens, but most cases of too-small-houses seem like they could have been avoided with better planning. I know our house will fit our needs at least until our oldest children are early teens. If, at that point, we feel too cramped we will move and rent out our house which will give us a nice source of income each month. If (hopefully) we do not feel too cramped we will stay and this will be our forever home that will be paid off by the time we’re 56! Woohoo! Either way it’s a win and our kids will spend, at a minimum, their elementary years in a fun house with a fun backyard and we will have plenty of expendable income for sports, trips, and anything else we desire! Small houses are the best in my opinion. They just require future planning which is something I do not think alot of people do these days! They either buy too small for the number of kids they want (OP) or they buy the largest house they can afford and then are unhappy becuse they have such little expendable income. Big houses don’t just mean higher mortgages, they mean buying more junk to fill them with, higher utilities, higher taxes, more expensive repair and upkeep costs… this all eats into expendable income quickly. I say GO SMALL whenever possible!! But, the right size of small for your family. 1200 sqft for 3 kids? Great! 1200 sqft for 7 kids… not so great....See MoreLooking for feedback on this floor plan...
Comments (12)I think you're asking too much of this small space. The house is 1200 sf ... with the addition, it'll be -- what? -- 1400ish? 3-4 bedrooms and 2-3 baths just don't fit into that space. To put this into perspective, my first house was a simple ranch in that same size range. We had 3 bedrooms (master was full with a queen bed and large dresser, our two kids had twin beds and plenty of play space in their rooms), 2 minimal bathrooms with no storage, a good sized living and dining room and a small kitchen. It was small but functional. You're trying to add another bedroom and another bath PLUS a mention of second living space, etc. ... AND have space for a wheelchair. Can't happen. Unless your addition is going to essentially double the space, it just can't happen. My best thoughts: - Focus on your bathroom space. Since your dad's wheelchair bound, you MUST allow him space to maneuver, and I often hear on this board that means a 5' radius. I'd ditch the tubs completely and go with walk-in showers; no barrier, roll-in type. Realistically, his shower will be huge. And your bathroom needs space for dad PLUS a caregiver. What storage do you need in the bathroom? I suspect he has a moveable shower chair? Do you need to store any type of lift for him? Do you store medications in the bathroom? - With space at a premium, do you necessarily need two FULL bathrooms? Could you go with a jack-and-jill ... something that'd place a LARGE shower in a room ... then two half-baths on opposite sides? Yes, it'd be better to have two full baths, but realistically, this might be a compromise that'd work. - Since Dad (and Mom?) will live in this house all the time, and they'll have their own rooms, I'd consider twin beds in SMALL bedrooms. I'd consider placing their beds up against a wall to allow maximum floor space in the room. I'd think this would be especially useful for Dad since he needs the floor space for the wheelchair. - How much "stuff" do Mom and Dad have to store? I'm thinking of my grandmother, who absolutely was never going to use all the cooking gear or her plentiful collection of evening gowns again, but who COULD NOT let go of them. - You say they'll have live-in caregivers, and they'll need space. I'm assuming these caregivers will also have other homes elsewhere? So they will need sleeping space but probably not a whole lot of storage space? I'd try to give the caregivers a queen sized bed and a small closet. And I'd try for a seating area in the caregivers' bedroom -- a loveseat and a TV perhaps? -- it's not a secondary living space, but it's what I think a house this size can support. - Will the caregivers have children in the house? If so, could you plan more of a bunk room for them? And/or for visiting grandchildren? I'm wondering if you could do a bunk "up" and a seating area, desk, or play space "down" for the kids? Again, this'd give them a space apart from the family, but it would allow it to be in a small space. - I suggest plenty of insulation between bedroom walls. If your parents are typical, they'll start playing the TV louder and louder and louder. That type of thing wears on people's nerves and makes them "snippy". Avoid it with a bit of insulation. - With family coming and going, you probably need a good-sized eating area. And if your family's like mine, people want to sit at the table and talk to the cook. I'd encourage you to think about placing the dining table at the far end of the house (so it's a quiet, restful space, not a spot that doubles as a walkway) and scoot it up against the wall using a banquette. This takes so much less space. And you can leave an empty spot at the end for Dad's wheelchair to scoot up to the table. Since Dad will probably sit at the table for long periods of time, I'd try to place this in a spot with good views. - With family coming and going, think through your parking. Again, this is the kind of thing that wears on people: Plan it so that you won't always be running out to move your car so your brother can get his out of the drive. - Leave an empty space in the living room for Dad's wheelchair. If the whole room is full of furniture, he will have no place to sit....See MoreFloor plan Feedback/Suggestions
Comments (14)Lots of thoughts, unconnected and presented in a random fashion: - I'm admittedly not a fan of the courtyard style. Draw in your pool furniture; with only 4' walkway on two sides and 7' walkway on the other sides, you don't really have space for furniture -- and people can't comfortably fit by the furniture. Well, you don't actually have to add anything; just look at the door drawn between the playroom and the pool -- it blocks about 3/4 of the walking space already. On the positive side, with all these walls nearby, you'll have ample room for hanging towels. - Additionally, it reminds me of a miserable stay at a Vegas hotel ... it was 117 degrees and the courtyard pool received not one bit of breeze. We couldn't stand to stay in the courtyard area without actually being IN the water. - An 8x15 pool? I suggest you measure this off, perhaps tape out a space this size on the floor. It's tiny. I mean, I'm sitting on an 8' wide sofa right now ... in a 16' wide room, and I can't imagine a pool this size. We are building one of the smallest fiberglass pool available, and it's bigger than this. - I like the suggestion other people are making about swapping the kids' rooms with the garage. Garages and kitchens should be located close together -- it's not only groceries -- do you really want to carry garbage bags across the living room and down this maze of a hallway? - On the subject of the kids' bedrooms, I agree that I'd downsize them to one shared bath. Two baths are a very large expense, and there's no reason two kids can't share one bathroom. You could easily downsize the kids' bedrooms, and they'd still have plenty of space. Note that it'll be hard to move furniture down the 90 degree hallway to the farthest kid's bedroom. - I agree with the posters who are pointing out the too-open playroom /living room situation -- these two rooms will not have visual or acoustical privacy, so there's no point in having two rooms. Small kids won't use a playroom, but teens will enjoy a place where they can be loud and have friends over. Ideally this future space would move across the house from the main living area, but at the very least you could do a wall /large pocket door between the spaces. - I wouldn't waste prime pool-view space on a workout room; instead, I'd move the master so it would be adjacent to the pool /have a straight-to-outside door. - I hate the master bath and closet. The bath is too long and drawn out -- I have a bowling alley bathroom now, and I hate it. This one'll cost a fortune in tile. I am ambivalent about closets in bathrooms, but this one isn't nicely arranged -- if you're going this route, you want the closet door to be located JUST INSIDE the bathroom door -- you don't want to be forced to walk the length of the whole bathroom to reach the closet. And the size of the closet -- do you really need something this massive? - The bedroom by the garage is the potential MIL room? I don't think it's adequate for someone to live in full-time. In contrast to the master's massive closet, this closet is decidedly tiny. If your MIL moves in with you full-time, she's going to want to keep a bunch of her stuff (needed or not), and she'll have no storage in this space. The bathroom is not well suited to an elderly person's needs at all; take a look at aging-in-place bathrooms online. On the positive side, she could potentially take over the adjacent workout space, using it for a sitting room. - You're building a lot of space that you don't need right now: the playroom and the MIL room. Could you design something that'd accomodate your needs NOW and have room for expansion in the future? It'd save you money now, and when /if you want /need those other spaces, you can add them then. - I'd rethink the powder room. That nose-to-toes layout is always uncomfortable. With so many other bathrooms nearby,...See MoreLooking for Feedback on Revised New Home Floor Plan
Comments (94)@Nancy Smith Great to hear your experience! Looking back, do you think it is important to have the designer early on in the process? Can't wait to see your house built! I love Duplex. I am starting to think maybe we don't go for an adjacent room to the inlaw suite, rather have somewhat of an ADU on the property. I am checking with our HOA on what is allowed. We are re-thinking our approach. I will keep everyone posted on our progress!...See Morebpath
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