Help, White oak or red oak, worth it?
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- 4 years ago
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Comments (13)Thanks! This plan is being inspired by an issue similar to the "America Elm". The road used to be planted with Black Pine, which were very salt tolerant. An epidemic of bark beetles wiped them all out. Interestingly, I had been looking for salt tolerant evergreen replacements before, and never ran into the name pinus radiata. I'd be worried the bark beetles would take them out. Eastern White Pine is IMHO the prettiest pine and totally immune to the local diseases, but particularly vulnerable to salt. That's what the neighbors planted. Ended up using pitch pine, which is very salt tolerant, but still might have some beetle vulnerability. Also considered Atlas Cedar. There are a lot of wild Juniperus virginiana thriving on the sight. Euonymousis an invasive species here. I did consider sea buckthorn for erosion control on another spot. While it isn't considered invasive in my area, I'm told some are worried it will be. I'll have to look into Holly Oak...it should survive here. It's rated for my zone. Tupelo is a tree I really think is in theory perfect for the area. Very wind resistant, slightly salt resistant, beautiful fall color, not particularly susceptibility to local diseases. The catch is this is for my parent's property...I won't be there to water them. I can't find a cheap source of tupelo, and I hear it doesn't take well to transplanting. So my "plant a bunch and hope some survive neglect" strategy likely won't work for it. I'm waiting until I can get my parents more interested in the project to plant a couple tupelo in the "place of honor" where they can be seen from the house. At the moment, I'm looking for a row of cheap bare root things I can plant in a row along the road in front of the field. This part of the project is deciduous because I want to keep the Fall color of the area and not completely obstruct the neighbor's view....See Morewhite oak in new kitchen next to red oak elsewhere?
Comments (9)Thx, frenchtarragon. This would totally be me. I've been trying to tell myself white will be ok for almost a week. I'm putting it to bed. Really, can't thank you guys enough. Hope the red isn't too red, as I've read issues even with matching red to red. Ugh. (Claire, these are very old oak floors. They haven't tested this section of the floor (original) but they are definitely oak. The family room neighboring the kitchen is confirmed red by a cross-section. The cabs are bleached walnut. Not a great pair with oak -- had planned them when the kitchen was a maple floor.)...See MoreRed oak stairs with white oak floors
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Comments (9)Karen, I love it. You have helped me decide on the stain for our red oak. We have white oak upstairs and red oak downstairs. After seeing your floors and Chris Loves Julia’s white oak in Duraseal’s “weathered gray”, I’m sold. Like you, I thought I wanted the on trend natural white oak look but, in reality, it lacks the warmth that I want in my home. Yours is both light and warm!...See MoreRelated Professionals
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4 years agoMy cabinets are medium stained red oak, and the floor is natural stained white oak. However, the floors were installed in 1990 or so. They have not been refinished yet. It also depends on your stain. Red oak will go more orange-red. I don't know if any stain can stop the orange-red in the red oak.
Can you buy a sample board or two and try different color stains? Try colors that you normally wouldn't like because it may change with the undertones of white oak. I still haven't decided whether to go lighter or darker on the floor when we refinish it. Even with this natural color, I can see where the previous owners had a piece of furniture set by a floor to ceiling window. The sun had faded the wood around their furniture. It seems like dark stain would have been worse, but I don't know.
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The link has a long article, but it basically says...trends for 2020.
1. People are choosing darker stained hardwood. Darker is more maintenance especially with kids. Choose between style or less maintenance.
2. Cool tones are in. Getting away from red-Browns and yellows. Going to browns with no red tones or grays. Add a touch of gray to the browns to make cooler and lighter.
3. Very dark brown floors. Use Ebony and Walnut 50/50 or Ebony and Jacobean 50/50 to get extremely dark opaque floors that hide most of the oak grain. Shows every bit of dust and footprints though.
4. To go darker, but not as dark as #3, try dark walnut, antique brown, coffee brown, or special walnut, or other blends.
https://www.rocktherm.com/hardwood-floor-stain-colors-for-white-oak/
The above link shows a lot of stain testing with Minwax. Click of the link above, then click the right arrows to see the results. 25 pictures.
Duraseal has a link with quite a few stain samples on white oak.https://www.duraseal.com/stain-gallery/
https://www.rocktherm.com/hardwood-floor-stain-colors-for-oak/
https://www.wideplankflooring.com/blog/three-reasons-to-love-white-oak-floors-2/ This link tells you about which white to choose. Some white oak from certain areas are not as strong as white oak from other areas.
Google "stains on white oak flooring".
Good white oak can last for 50 years. The color alone is worth it. Learn what red oak grain looks like vs white oak wood grain.C Hogan thanked Peke - 4 years ago
Since my cabinets are too orange-red, stay away from words like "cinnamon, umber, and yellow gold". Ask the names of colors that are mixed. Sometimes it helps. Mine is very close to a stain color called Fruitwood so you don't want that. The cabinets were stained a custom tinted color. Sherwin Williams told us it can only be bought in Oklahoma and Texas which tells me that no one should be using it. Other states have banned it??? I also think it doesn't last as long as other stains and clear coats that are put on separately, but my cabinet guy likes it. Hey, at least you know what NOT to buy.
The white oak floor was stained in 1995 by previous owners, but I think it was "natural". I think "natural" made the white oak a little yellow in 1995, but I bet there are stains now that don't. I think red oak will go red-orange-pink no matter what you do.I prefer stained cabinets as long as the color is good. Here is a picture of two cabinets. The skinny one on the left was built and stained in 1970, and the larger cabinet on the right is brand new. Not much difference considering we had no idea what color or brand of stain was used in 1970. We have not resanded or restained the old one yet. We just pulled it out of the garage. The cabinets are a little darker in real life. Stained cabinets hide a lot of dirt and scratches that painted cabinets don't. However, with painted cabinets, you get to change colors as often as you want. I love blue cabinets!
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