I _think_ rev-a-shelf makes many different kinds of openers. Maybe they all have fancy names to distinguish them and I never paid attention? Maybe that's why sometimes you find items in the clearance that look like what's still selling at MSRP, even with the same numbers; maybe the closing systems change? I have a trash pullout that looks like badgergals, but there's some signficant resistance to pulling it out. I don't mind it, but it's not "soft". I have another trash pullout that's a completely different design. There are no pulleys or mechanism, really, for opening. They just glide out - smaller, aluminum cans. That's very easy pull out-puch in, but there's no self-closing mechanism at all. It's also RAS. To tell you the truth, it none of it matters to me all that much. Not as much as some other annoyance-parameters in the kitchen. I think a lot of thought goes into all this blum/soft-close hardware stuff when it may not quite warrant all that attention, at least not comparatively. YMMV of course. And I'm not saying it's not good to think about this stuff. Just that IMO making a "mistake" on this decision won't be really terribly horrible. =0.02 Badger, those curved cabinets of yours are so very elegant!

I have a couple of Rev-a-shelf items. I'm not familiar with the Lee brand, so I can't offer a comparison, but the rev-a-shelf items work well. One other comment -- I purchased the trash can pull-out through the cabinet company because I thought it might be difficult to find elsewhere and it was TWICE the price. =80 And I don't mean the shipping, since it was coming with the cabinet order, there was no additional shipping charge for ordering the rev-a-shelf stuff. I later found the exact rev-a-shelf item, along with the sink tip-out tray, at Lowe's for half the price I paid the cabinet company. >:( The online price at rev-a-shelf was also much higher than the Lowe's price, and then add the shipping cost for ordering directly from Rev-a-shelf.

I have a 9" pullout, also, although it is an in-cabinet pullout, and you do loose a lot of room. It does make the space left much more accessible, though. The inside usable space dimensions would be very helpful. I have looked everywhere and not been able to find them. If anyone has the measurement, PLEASE post it. I am sure it would help a lot of people considering these pullouts. I would want the upper spice pullout only for the small jars and rectangular tins, of which they make very few any more. So most would be the small round jars. I can keep my larger spices in the upper cabinet next to the pullout. The smaller ones tend to get lost though, and hard to find without emptying out the spice cabinet. I designed away my corner lazy susan that I used in my old kitchen that kept them relatively accessible, in favor of a glass front lighted cabinet. I measured my spices and the tins are 1 1/4 inches wide, the McCormick small glass jars are 1 1/2 inches and the McCormick small plastic jars are 1 3/4 inches wide. Small extracts are about 1 inch wide to 1 1/4 inch wide. So 1 3/4 inches are plenty to make it functional for me, since not all my spices would fit in the upper one anyway. I love the idea of the peg board, but with no solution for my spices I am not sure if that would be most useful if I can only have one. On the other hand, I know I would rather not be bending down or kneeling on the floor to find the most frequently used ones. The peg board might let me get rid of the on the counter utensil holder, which would leave a nicer, cleaner and less clutter look. If I went with a lower spice pullout, it would probably just house the less frequently used items. Then I would keep just my favorites in the upper cabinet. Anyway, I need to decide soon. If anyone has the inside dimensions or can show how they were installed in an upper filler with wide moldings over it, it would be immensely helpful. Ordering them and returning them is not an option since there are steep restocking fees as well as shipping to pay. I would only get about 50% back if I had to return one. Sue

I don't have either, so I'm not adding any experience but I personally love the Lemans type pullouts over the halfmoon ones. There seems to be less wasted space. Did you know Ikea now sells a Lemans type pull out? I saw one at their store this weekend, and it was very nice. I wonder though if it is rated for less weight than the original Hafele one. I couldn't find it on their website, but I see it here in their "Storage Solutions for Your Kitchen" mini-catalogue and the price is $169 Canadian.