Couture Vert, I do not have Meile products available to me. I only have one place to order appliances and they mostly have Whirlpool, KitchenAid, Jenn-Aire, Maytag, Frigidaire, and GE available.

There are not words to describe how much I hate the Advantium. I can offer no advice with respect to the other models, but I would never buy another Advantium.

smit2380 thank you so much. I was going with something that has a pull-down door because where my microwave is located right now (over my cooktop) I hit my shoulder every time I open the door and close it. I am afraid to get a regular microwave with a side opening door again for our new house. I am not having good luck trying to order appliances because most of them are Temporarily Out Of Stock. Of course, some of the KitchenAid have been out of stock since the end of January and the Covid problem does not help. Do you know anything about the GE Cafe French Door wall ovens?

I had one of the larger Panasonic microwaves that lasted from 2008 to 2020. If one of these countertop versions could be adapted to be built in (requires air flow around it), I'd certainly recommend it.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Panasonic-2-2-cu-ft-Countertop-Microwave-in-Stainless-Steel-with-Sensor-Cooking-NN-SN965S/206483737?mtc=Shopping-VF-F_D29A-G-D29A-Multi-Multi-NA-Feed-LIA-NA-NA-MajorAppl_Major_Appliances&cm_mmc=Shopping-VF-F_D29A-G-D29A-Multi-Multi-NA-Feed-LIA-NA-NA-MajorAppl_Major_Appliances-71700000059090939-58700005416012912-92700049340208123&gclid=EAIaIQobChMItYGjlZDO6gIVNgiICR21pgWTEAQYBSABEgJxXfD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

After downsizing I got a smaller one and don't really like it as much.

Wyosue58, unfortunately, I have no experience with the GE cafe french door ovens. Between the evil Advantium and the GE range that died during Thanksgiving meal prep, I have uncharitable feelings toward GE at the moment.

smit2380, I actually feel the same way but wanted the French Doors. Bosch has some with side door openings but Bosch is not available in my area. I just remodeled my kitchen and bought KitchenAid (top of the line) and after 14 service calls on my refrigerator, they finally replaced it. They bought back my double wall ovens because of a health issue. After replacing the second circuit (there were 2) there was a horrible burning smell that gave me a migraine that lasted over a week. The service guy said--that is just new oven smell--I don't think so since I had the ovens for 9 months. My cooktop after having the sensors for 2 burners replaced still does not work right but they tell me that is the way it is supposed to work. One time it takes 5 mins to heat up and other times it takes 10 mins. After all of these issues and I want to build another house????? WE need a house on one level and I am still kicking myself that I did not INSIST on building 2 years ago instead of remodeling. Sorry--I did not mean to make this long.

IMO MW now have very short lifespans so I would never have a built in one for sure and my go to for a good MW has always beed Panasonic on the counter and when it dies get another one that will also fit on the counter.