Carl Reiner died at 98

murraysmom Zone 6a OH

3 years ago

Wow, I'm sad to see this but what a long life he had!! He certainly was a comic genius. I loved the Dick Van Dyke Show too and I knew that anything he was associated with would be worth watching. RIP Carl.

Bluebell66

3 years ago

Wow, 98. He was involved in so many shows I've enjoyed over the years.

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Taoseeker stated: "It would be interesting to compare a few old varieties with the heat treated ones." I am not sure if you are refering to what what I think you are. If you are interested in whether a virused but then heat treated plant does better or worse than one of the same variety that was never virused, this is my response. Plants are very complex, it is possible that the virus and / or the heat treatment may have affected other mechanisms (could be positive or negative). There are many types of examples but since a very recent (2009) example of the "expression of heat stress proteins" has been studied in a rose, I will present that example. The actual research paper is very technical. The paper is at the following link: http://journals.cambridge.org/action/displayAbstract?fromPage=online&aid=6203748 Rather than looking at the specific details most readers would probably benefit more from the following summary of the field: http://www.cspp.cn/Annual2009/upload/pub09.pdf Please notice the statement: "It is known that rapid heat hardening can be elicited by a brief exposure of cells to sub-lethal high temperature, which in turn provides protection from subsequent and more severe temperature." This does not "prove" that heat treated roses will have better heat resistance. Maybe a longer term of high temperature will result in other effects (positive or negative). I am presenting this to indicate that one cannot assume that other variables are being held constant. It is possible that effects may not show up till years later. Some "cured" polio victims are now finding that many years later problems related to the polio are appearing. -------------------------- The effects of a virus infection can be very unexpected. The following link discusses the observed effect of a virus on aphid population (not done on roses): http://www.springerlink.com/content/uw13564v21223876/ I have posted several times about my experince with a virused Culbert Grant from Pickering. Up to then my best Climber was Illusion. This new Culbert Grant bloomed and grew much better than Illusion all summer. I was very excited. That winter I received a letter from Pickering that it was virused and that they were pulling it off the market. That spring it was dead. Scientists at Cornell University surveyed approximately 2500 roses by visible assessment. They found that 166 had virus symptons: http://www.actahort.org/books/234/234_53.htm From the abstract, it does not appear that anything unusual was observed, but from the full paper a number of unexpected results were reported such as: "Total flower cut weight and total number of flower cuts with nonsymptomatic foliage was greater from PNRSV (severe) inoculated rose plants than from healthy control plants. The data revealed also that PNRSV (severe) and ApMV (severe) inoculated plants outyielded the PNRSV (mild) inoculated plants, which in turn outyielded the healthy tissue inoculated plants. These results were unexpected since reduced yields would be anticipated from virus infections." They then discuss some "maybes. one of these is: "Another speculation is that the initial stage of viral infection stimulates host metabolism by competing and utilizing the host ribonucleic acid polymerases for ita viral replication." i.e. The virus infection may be causing the rose to grow better. ----------------------------------------------- The following non rose paper may be of interest: http://journals.cambridge.org/action/displayAbstract?fromPage=online&aid=6203748 Explanation of the sympols: (VT) I assume that (VT) means heat treated since I found this using heat treatment as a key work. The abstract is not clear. (My literature search service says the full paper can be down loaded but when I try it states that it is too new and has not been uploaded yet.) (V) is virused infected. (VTR) is virused reinfected. Just to highlight one of the observations: "V plants produced big tubers that weighed more than those from VT plants."

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Claudesmom

3 years ago

Such a creative genius. Great loss but his works will hopefully go on forever.

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I enjoyed much of his work. Both he and his best buddy Mel Brooks were among a few who evolved popular comedy away from the slapstick, in your face type to more subtlety. An approach with words and visuals that offered irony, sarcasm and made you think a bit. All the more funny because of that.

Carl Reiner died at 98

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