Again, thank you everyone for the good advice. It certainly seems like the consensus is that what I am seeing is totally normal. I will miss her blooms, however, in the immediate future. She was NEVER out of bloom and could always be counted on for something to bring inside, even if her blooms didn't last too long in the vase. On the other hand, the place she vacated looks 1000% better. She was almost completely blocking a fully grown sego palm which we are now enjoying again and I have replaced her there with 3 Lady Emma Hamiltons, an Austin that I had fallen in love with last year after purchasing one. Hopefully they will stay close to the 4 feet height that the catalog promises, though in this climate the Austins can be a little too happy. Hope I don't end up having to move them, too, a few years down the line!

Personally, I would wait until spring. They dirt tends to fall off. Enjoy it where it is this year. It will be fine. I've had roses buried beneath branches of others for several years. In the spring before it fully leafs out is the best time to move so they have the whole summer to settle in. When it is moved, they tend to act like a newly planted rose again. So don't it expect it be grand that year. Shelley

Donn, That wide angle shot looks completely different. It all looked close together in the other one. Its a BIG area. Nice. I am going to "swipe" your pictures and send them to my sister. She has a very large corner lot in Kansas that she is wanting to convert into ornamental and prairie grasses, getting rid of the standard lawn, except for some areas and paths of fescue. Right now she is fighting a solid mass of crabgrass that used to be a bermuda lawn. Obviously not the plain jane common bermuda I had which nothing but digging or poison will kill out completely, rather some kind of finicky water sucking, high maintenance hybrid that she neglect for two years. She is a bit overwhelmed at present and I think if she sees these large grasses and massed areas you defined, her area might not seem so large and formidable. I detected a bit of of despair yesterday on the phone and she said she feared she was creating a mess. She'll do fine, she's been a gardener for years and actually she's obsessed with it right now. I checked out photobucket. Looks simple enough.

Have you ever tried Super Thrive? I think Lowe's carries it and Home Depot and Walmart have it listed online. We call it GO JUICE!!! :) My son used it on Lilac bushes at transplant. He ran out and skipped a few. The missed ones were noticably smaller the next year. I soak all my bare roots in it and add it to water to water new potted roses. Works great! Seems to give them a boost. You can smell the vitamins in the bottle as soon as you open it. Rebecca