Softscape help on newly built yard 10a/b SoCal
Briana Walker
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Briana Walker
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My faith in organic gardening is being seriously shaken.....
Comments (89)Shellva, I just found this thread and after seeing the photo of your "sick" tomato of a couple years ago scanned down through to see if you reported on the results of your soil test. To my eye that tomato showed nutrient deficencies. There seemed to be a purplish cast to the stem--not enough phosphorous maybe. The growing tip was pale green--not enough nitrogen. The dried leaf margin so early in the season may have been a potassium lack. And those cupped leaves are indicative of a nutrient lack too but I don't remember what. And as some have said, pH is critical. Here in eastern Okla our soils are too acid to grow many crops well, beans and peas especially, also asparagus. So we amend our soils with woodashes as well as lots of organic stuff. And I am in total agreement with those who say it takes 3-5 years to get good results. Aeration is also critical. Our first garden at this location--on heavy clay--was built by hand, because we didn't own a tiller. My husband and I turned the soil with shovels, our two oldest children beat it up with rakes and hoes. That was 24 years ago. Then we got a soil test and for a couple years used a bit of chemical fertilizer while we built up the soil. Have been organic now for 20 years. We still till twice a year--the garden is 5000 sq ft, too big not to, although we tried one year. Once in the late fall we turn under the chickenmanure/woodchip litter from the chicken house and again in late winter we have to till to get rid of the darn winter weeds. We don't till to "cultivate", but use a hoe early in the season. Then we mulch with oak leaves that have decomposed some over the winter and grass clippings and rotten sawdust from a sawmill when we can get it. And we provide veggies for 4 familes all summer and a good part of the winter. So I hope you come back and let us know what that soil test showed. It is a very handy tool to use. Knowledge is power. It is also very handy to study the photos of nutrient deficiency in plants. Wish I could remember the name of the book that I first saw them in but I gave the thing away to a neophyte gardener. Maybe someone knows of a link that shows them. I would like to refresh my memory....See MoreMango trees in SoCal?
Comments (100)It looks like it rarely goes below 32f here, but will be prepared in case. More so than a freeze is my concern for nights under 40f, as those seem potentially more frequent than I'm used to. For anyone else that comes across this, it looks like Im in Zone 10A, with 9B close by. I'm not sure what the root stock is on this tree, but it looks like it produced flowers last season, and the trunk is quite thick. From doing a little internet research, it looks like Valencia Pride are a little bit more cold hardy then a Glenn or some other similar varieties. Will keep this thread posted on the progress of this tree....See MorePlumeria in Northern CA, zone 9?
Comments (31)Hello Stephanie, Stan and Kawagoe, Here is my first bloom of 2017! It seems I will have only three of my 20 plants blooming. This is a cutting I got from a front yard in LA in 2015. I drive down there quite often and that is from where most of my cuttings come.....relatives, friends and strangers who like to share. Of the seven plants I ordered from Maui Plumeria Gardens last October only three are still among the living. I planted and kept them indoors all winter. These are the first plumeria for which I paid. I will try to go back to Maui in September and purchase a replacement for the Scott Pratt (red) variety. All of my other plumeria remained outdoors under overhangs during the winter. I planted a large four foot cutting into the ground a couple of weeks ago in Prunedale. I live in Santa Clara during the week which is warmer so I will definitely have to cover my newest addition over the winter. I'll keep my fingers crossed. It was a freebie from a very fragrant yellow plumeria tree in LA that some ladies gave me from their front yard. I'm sure your are all also enjoying your blooms........ Take care, Aileen...See MoreLandscape ideas for California yard (zone 10a)
Comments (10)Thank you yaardvark. i just uploaded some pics as you suggested for the front yard. new user so bear with me - for some reason houzz wouldn't let me upload more than two. i will try and edit/add more through comments. hooveb - that's exactly right. Several contractors would not even come out to give a quote unless the project was a minimum $50k. Your drip irrigation story sounds awesome. I think we know what we want but the lowest possible option still comes out to about $45k. I am drawing a blank as to what we need to outsource to the contractor and what part we can do ourselves. We have been mulling over this project for over a year now. Spoken with 3 or 4 contractors, looked at lots of houses and millions of pictures. Information overload perhaps because i still can't seem to make it work. As I said, we know what we want. we want to extend the patio area (concrete/pavers) to twice the existing size to provide entertaining/play space. Cost of that is $10k minimum, possibly more. The other half of the backyard would have remained lawn/turf but with better irrigation since artificial turf would be even more expensive and we don't like it much. Some sort of focal point in the backyard would be nice but an appropriately sized water fountain would add another $5-$8k so nixed that. We were considering adding a retaining wall on the back end of the backyard and on the right side and extend the sidewalk but that's another $10k so nixed most of it. We want to add a fire pit and some seating. We want to extend the concrete sidewalk (sideyard), build steps going up to the front of the house, add some trees that will eventually provide shade. Veggie garden on the other side of the side yard. We ruled out bbq/island etc. We had also ruled out gravel/decomposed granite (except in the veggie garden area) as being hard on the feet and tough to maintain but I am wondering if we can work that into the design somehow to keep costs down. kiminipl - house faces North east. Backyard faces southwest and as I said, we get relentless sun. There were three ficus trees in the corners of the backyard that we had to take down because the roots were terribly invasive but it made things worse from a shade perspective. garden gal - thank you for your perspective. I will check out the link. I have scoured pics on bewaterwise.com, houzz for drought tolerant plants etc... just can't seem to figure out the right plan for us with the budget we have in mind. As I said.. help/ideas/perspective on actual situation (looking at the pics) would be much appreciated. thank you all so much!...See Morecactusmcharris, interior BC Z4/5
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